Table Tennis Grip

So I was playing at my club when someone told me that my grip was incorrect. He said that my grip was "forehand oriented" and the angle forced me to be better at my forehand and wasn't very strong on my backhand. The grip he told me to do seemed to make me have to point downwards to help me with me forehand and despite his advice it made my backhand worse. I've been using this grip for several years and I have my first tournament in about 2 months. Should I change my grip?
 
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Yes, use the one comfortable to you for both BH and FH. If you check some pros, likeTimo, he has two grip for BH and FH.

So, if your grip is better for FH, why not? At least you got your beastly FH that can take opponent down. Instead of having two subpar FH and BH. If you feel very comfortable using your original grip, then you can just make both FH and BH better or more consistent, instead of changing it completely.
 
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Check this thread: http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/f...4-Liu-Guoliang-how-to-grip-the-bat-like-a-Pro
Read what Liu Guoliang said and choose yourself.
Now if you have a tournament in 2 months I would advice to keep your grip for the mean time and after the tournament you can change it.
You are already used to all your strokes and it will feel akward the change.
With a good grip you will have better chances of improving your game but you need to give it time a be patient so that you get used to it.
Or you can try what Timo Boll and Waldner do. They have a grip for their forehand strokes and another one for their backhand. But it is harder....
 
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Check this thread: http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/f...4-Liu-Guoliang-how-to-grip-the-bat-like-a-Pro
Read what Liu Guoliang said and choose yourself.
Now if you have a tournament in 2 months I would advice to keep your grip for the mean time and after the tournament you can change it.
You are already used to all your strokes and it will feel akward the change.
With a good grip you will have better chances of improving your game but you need to give it time a be patient so that you get used to it.
Or you can try what Timo Boll and Waldner do. They have a grip for their forehand strokes and another one for their backhand. But it is harder....
I would LOVE to hear what Liu Guoliang has to say about the matter but the video is entirely in Chinese so I cannot understand what he has to say
 
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If you have played a few years with the same grip and have a tournament in 2 months then you shouldn't change it yet maybe. The right grip provides your shots more speed and is therefore important, but it can be difficult to get used to it in the beginning. How long time it takes to get used to it changes a lot between people. I was on a training camp in China and was taught the Chinese forehand technique in the beginning of the camp. It felt quite different than my previous grip and technique, but I got used to it fast. After a week of training there my forehand was at it's best form ever. So yea, you should definitely change the grip at some point if your coach says there is need for an improvement, but at what point depends quite much on how much you train. If you train a lot before the competition then you can change it now already but if less, then change if afterwards :)
 
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These posts were in the link that I gave you and I was expecting you read the whole thread. But since you didn´t here it is...
ZJK and ML have different position for thumb and index finger. ZJK.s grip is favoring backhand while ML's grip is forehand/counter loop oriented.
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He said that Wang Hao always has 2 or 2 and a half fingers on the bat at all time, so he can have a very good RPB. While Ryu Seung Min's forehand grip is "deeper" (his thumb is very forward), his traditional backhand grip is different. His fingertips arent touching the rubber, the sides of the finger are. And Ma Lin is somewhat in between. So Liu Guoliang says if you want a good backhand like Wang Hao use his grip, if you want a good backhand use Wang Hao's grip. If you want good forhand use Ryu Seung Min's grip. If you want good third ball, serve, and server return, use Ma lin's grip. As for the shakehanders someone above already translated about what Liu Guoliang said. Also, at the beginning, Liu Guoliang said that it doesn't matter what grip you use, it all comes down to preference and style of play.
 
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There are pros and cons to certain grips. You gain something and lose something. Pundit coaches will always tell you to try to make a neutral grip to be able to more easily react to a FH or BH and make the transition easier. Con of that grip is that it not the most powerful or spinny grip for a FH or BH shot. Con is you can more easily get into action to make the shot, whether Fh or BH. At the lower levels, just making the shot is more important than overpowering the opponent, so in this case, I must agree with the pundit coaches. A newer player is probably better off learning to play with a neutral grip than favoring one side or the other.

When a player gets experienced enough, he can more easily change grips. There are lots of ways to hold the bat and apply pressure or take off pressure. Those "soft" hands enable a player to make short touch shots and flick & block deceptively.

comfort is a factor, but whatever grip you settle upon, it will take some time to practice it and become accustomed to it.

Do what you can afford to do. if you are in TT for "fun" as defined as just playing and enjoying yourself... knock yourself out and grip it like a death grip, it's all good. if you want to grow and develop, you are probably better served by being more neutral than anything, at least for the time being. Don't worry about the tournament.. if you lose rating points, it is all good. When you improve from a stable grip and can win more matches later, you will get those rating points back, and then some... PLUS you get to break all those hearts and make grown men cry a river over losing to an under-rated player.
 
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Yes you should change it. Years ago I got to a stage where my game plateaued, even though my BH and FH had good technique it was more my ability to be consistent that was my main weapon for wining matches, and not so much the speed and spin of my shots. I then started to understand just how vital the bat angle is which is affected by the grip. So I played around with my grip and realised obtaining the right bat angle is more important than having the most comfortable grip. The spin and speed in my shots improved dramatically as I now have a grip that I think maximises my FH and BH. In relation to the forearm I'd say there are two angles that are critical for this, also note when you change your grip you may also need to adjust your stroke.
 
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Another thing to consider is your FH to BH transition. A neutral grip helps, but there are other factors. Being in great position is number one. Keeping the bat belly button to chest high is important. Starting the BH stroke, whether it is a low spin drive or a spinny BH loop, against a topspin ball in a rally, you start the stroke from the same high point. Another thing is to NOT impact the ball too far in front of you, that causes you to NOT use your entire body for a stable base. That makes you use your shoulder only for support and that is not enough. Whenever we lean and try to make a shot other than a block or low power shot, there is no control at all. Another thing that hurts a lot of players BH shots who favor a FH grip is the anticipation and position after the shot. FH happy players often do this... instead of keeping the bat in middle ground ready to go either way, the Fh happy player already instinctively brings his arm back to be more ready to initiate a FH shot. Then, when the ball comes to the BH wing, they have to reverse their thoughts, wake up, get arm back to middle, and try to make a BH shot. Result is usually a fail.

I say all that to illustrate that the grip isn't the only thing that wrecks a player's BH shot making. Usually, it is something else. using a FH favored grip, a player can still land BH shots, it is just that the those BH shots will normally carry less power, spin, & speed than a neutral or BH oriented grip.

The BH, at lower levels is a much more effective shot that either directly wins points or greatly contributes to winning them on the next shot. Why? The BH involves very little backswing (vs an incoming topspin ball like in a rally). Thus, it can be VERY difficult to see the direction the ball will go. Plus, you can easily disguise this, PLUS you can get the BH shot into action very rapidly with a high degree of safety if position and other aspects are correct, PLUS you greatly reduce your opponent's reaction time, PLUS you can exploit his weak zones, PLUS you can easily change the spin and it is harder to see as the action happens so fast.

Who at the lower levels can step around everything 100% of time and make winner after winner after winner or get to the block down the line or cross court after making a FH? No one (at that level) is the answer. usually, the lower level players are already off balance on their FIRST FH that makes them move, so cannot get to the block if they hired James Bond himself to drive them to the course of the block.

That is why I emphasize the importance of a good BH. In addition to all these other things, it allows you to make a quality winning or pressure shot while keeping some semblance of position for the next ball. It also allows you to have another thing for the enemy to think about. if the opponent gives you a ball to your body and you make a strong BH topspin suddenly anywhere unpredictable, it can really trouble them. if the opponent avoids that area and gives it to your more dynamic FH zone, you hit a strong topspin down the line for a winner and now the opponent knows you just ripped his head off like one of those video games and finished him.

at the higher levels, it isn't this easy or simple, but the same principles apply and opponents are much better at using your lack of BH pressure as a thorn in your side.
 
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It depends on your playing style. If you already have a good BH then you don't need to change it but if your BH is too weak and your footwork is not good enough cover your BH side with FH, then you have to change your grip.
If you train so much then change your grip before the tournament but if you don't train so much then change it after the tournament.
 
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