Which Hurricane 3 version?

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Lol, ping Sunday....What a joke

yeah, another person that hides behind an alias, but cannot show face

 

[ben1229]

yeah, another person that hides behind an alias, but cannot show face

I don't believe a cent from that guy, make no sense use other's resources to make videos. But don't know why YouTube keep show that guys videos on list.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I don't believe a cent from that guy, make no sense use other's resources to make videos. But don't know why YouTube keep show that guys videos on list.

He's not right all the time, but not wrong all the time. You just have to apply some common sense and experience, which is true to most things in life.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I don't believe a cent from that guy, make no sense use other's resources to make videos. But don't know why YouTube keep show that guys videos on list.

Like one advice that that impacted me from him, is he said it's better to have a softer feeling blade and harder rubbers than to have hard blade and soft rubbers. After a lot of testing, I really found this word to be true and useful. Almost all my setups use a flexier inner carbon blade and hard rubber.

Not saying he's the only person, but he was the first person that I heard that advice from. So just for me personally, I always remembered him for that.

 

[ben1229]

Like one advice that that impacted me from him, is he said it's better to have a softer feeling blade and harder rubbers than to have hard blade and soft rubbers. After a lot of testing, I really found this word to be true and useful. Almost all my setups use a flexier inner carbon blade and hard rubber.

Not saying he's the only person, but he was the first person that I heard that advice from. So just for me personally, I always remembered him for that.

That's why you like him, I understand that feeling you had from him, like my soccer tought me the first power shot. But anyway it doesn't matter you like him and I don't like him. We not on YouTube, we just talk about equipment and fun here.

 

[Jan_]

I posted a OOAK public info from DHS, and you say it is fake.
I thought of sharing with you my emails/whatsapp/wechat between DHS and myself, but I gather you will think it is fakes too and why should I waste my time to prove any point to you? who are you? as I said before - you just sound like a troll- unless you willing to show things about yourself - videos or what not.

Out of Chinese brands where I have direct communication channels or relationship with, is not limited to just DHS, but also Double Fish, 729, Yinhe, Loki to name a few

at the end of the day, Tony's Table Tennis is a brand name - a company in the table tennis space.
No insane businessman will use a company name and lie about things.

But what is John S?
You can just disappear and come back tomorrow as John Z

So, until you can come up with evidence on DHS using non H3 rubbers and labeling as H3, you are the biggest lie in this forum today.

You have contact with brands? Dude, you have 5k likes here and think you can just pull crap out of your ass? And I'm a promotion manager for stiga France dude. Anyone can play that card with no evidence. They don't have contact with brands like tt11 and ttd, but somehow you're on their radar? Ok, sure.

Also what brand? Are you bribar, or tt11? Maybe contra? Oh sorry, you're Tony's table tennis. Just another guy who thinks too highly of himself. I don't remember seeing or hearing about your "company" once in my years of being involved with table tennis. Relax, it's not like people know you. Even if you started making death threats, noone would care, or I should say know.

But anyway, keep helping table tennis in south africa, I'm getting a migraine reading the mind numbing crap you all say. You can what you want about pingsunday, but regarding chinese philosophy he's spot on. There's a reason he has so much following, his euro knowledge is close to non existent though, I will give you that.

And how about we get back to the topic of the actual thread because this got annoying half a week ago, when it started.

Blue classic vs blue neo.

 

[zeio]

I still can't understand why they are so secretive though, butterfly, stiga and donic (esn) are very open about the technologies they use and changes they make. I guess it has to do with the ccp, like everything else in China...

Actually, it's the other way around. ESN are by far the most secretive. They even state that they choose to stay behind the scene deliberately. Butterfly are even better than them. DHS are the most open among the three.

For one thing, ESN have the least patent applications, next to nothing. Butterfly have the most patents, blades and rubbers combined. DHS have the most technical and specific patents and papers when it comes to rubbers, down to the dye.

OTOH, DHS have never denied they supply custom rubbers to players that are off-limits to the general public. They are arguably the first brand to commercialize the concept of different "classes" for the same rubber model. They are the only brand that clearly state the hardness scale used for both their in-house rubbers and ESN rubbers.

As with everything about China that gets portrayed in the West, the language barrier is the biggest obstacle.

 

[h3llary]

I've used all versions of H3, literally all of them.

In general, OS and BS differ in the following aspects (assuming they have the same hardness):

1. Feedback - OS gives more clarity in feedback at low to medium impact. At high impact, you can feel both easily.
2. Max spin & speed - higher with BS
3. Possibility of bubbles - BS is known to form bubbles more likely after boosting
4. Boosting - BS relies more on booster

Your safest bet is a OS Neo H3 provincial at $33. But all new H3 are just 20-30% tacky vs the old H3. So you have to get used to it.

All TG Skylines sheets are still tacky as hell.

Which do you think is better for spin on high impact shots? Skyline TG2 neo 39 or H3 Neo blue provincial 39?

 

[Jan_]

Actually, it's the other way around. ESN are by far the most secretive. They even state that they choose to stay behind the scene deliberately. Butterfly are even better than them. DHS are the most open among the three.

For one thing, ESN have the least patent applications, next to nothing. Butterfly have the most patents, blades and rubbers combined. DHS have the most technical and specific patents and papers when it comes to rubbers, down to the dye.

OTOH, DHS have never denied they supply custom rubbers to players that are off-limits to the general public. They are arguably the first brand to commercialize the concept of different "classes" of the same rubber model. They are the only brand that clearly state the hardness scale used for both their in-house rubbers and ESN rubbers.

As with everything about China that gets portrayed in the West, the language barrier is the biggest obstacle.

The I haven't done proper research... Where do you find info about dhs? Now I'm intrigued... I wanna learn more about their sponge technology and how and why everything works with boosters.

 

[SFF_lib]

Which do you think is better for spin on high impact shots? Skyline TG2 neo 39 or H3 Neo blue provincial 39?

In the provincial BS, the only difference is the topsheet.

TG2 topsheet is harder than H3, hence in high impact TG2 has a higher catapult effect.

In low impact, TG2 topsheet feels more “dead” than H3.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

You have contact with brands? Dude, you have 5k likes here and think you can just pull crap out of your ass? And I'm a promotion manager for stiga France dude. Anyone can play that card with no evidence. They don't have contact with brands like tt11 and ttd, but somehow you're on their radar? Ok, sure.

Also what brand? Are you bribar, or tt11? Maybe contra? Oh sorry, you're Tony's table tennis. Just another guy who thinks too highly of himself. I don't remember seeing or hearing about your "company" once in my years of being involved with table tennis. Relax, it's not like people know you. Even if you started making death threats, noone would care, or I should say know.

But anyway, keep helping table tennis in south africa, I'm getting a migraine reading the mind numbing crap you all say. You can what you want about pingsunday, but regarding chinese philosophy he's spot on. There's a reason he has so much following, his euro knowledge is close to non existent though, I will give you that.

And how about we get back to the topic of the actual thread because this got annoying half a week ago, when it started.

Blue classic vs blue neo.

Stiga doesn't have office in France
However, I know quite a few of them in Sweden

here is me and international director of Stiga
so, test me with another brand hehehehe

and yeah, Tonys TT is small.
but Stiga knows me very well, since we make balls together (or should I say, DHS makes our balls HAHAHAHA)
so stop trying to be a fraud and pretend you are someone you are not, tell us who you really are? of course you are the alias John S lol.
the more you are trying to discredit me in table tennis, is really just playing to my advantage.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

The I haven't done proper research... Where do you find info about dhs? Now I'm intrigued... I wanna learn more about their sponge technology and how and why everything works with boosters.

you talk nonsense whole day long and make claims left right and center and up your behind and now you say you haven't done proper research?????

HAHAHA

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

John S, to make your life easier, I have on my contact list:

Andro
Gewo
Hallmark
Loki
Stiga
Xiom
Yasaka
Yinhe
Butterfly (both Germany and Japan)
729
Double Fish
DHS
Nittaku
Joola

and within a phone call, I can get hold of Oukei, Donic, Tibhar, Nexy

There is reason why I can talk about equipment.
TTD put me on as a "Verified Coach" under the previous software, even though the mods here and earlier users all know that I can also be a "Verified Equipment Expert".
I gathered that there is enough equipment experts out there, so I took on the Coach label since.

So, continue to challenge me
But maybe it is my turn - show me proof of your claim that Ma Long's pips is different than Fan Zhendongs pips lol or rather, different to mine.

 

[Jan_]

John S, to make your life easier, I have on my contact list:

Andro
Gewo
Hallmark
Loki
Stiga
Xiom
Yasaka
Yinhe
Butterfly (both Germany and Japan)
729
Double Fish
DHS
Nittaku
Joola

and within a phone call, I can get hold of Oukei, Donic, Tibhar, Nexy

There is reason why I can talk about equipment.
TTD put me on as a "Verified Coach" under the previous software, even though the mods here and earlier users all know that I can also be a "Verified Equipment Expert".
I gathered that there is enough equipment experts out there, so I took on the Coach label since.

So, continue to challenge me
But maybe it is my turn - show me proof of your claim that Ma Long's pips is different than Fan Zhendongs pips lol or rather, different to mine.

Let me be real with you for a sec...
Tony, I don't give a shit.

If talking shit to a rando on the Internet is your highlight of the day then you really need to get a life, or therapy, whatever works for you...

I'm a dude that plays for fun. I make a post to ask for help and you barge into the sub like you own it and try to project big dick energy like you own the damn place.

You have a company, that I guess makes good money, and props on that. But guess how many people care and how many in here are 10 times more important than both of us combined. I'm not important, I thought it's obvious. But you're being an asshole and I guess that makes me important since you care enough to debate me? Idk...

So back to the point, I made you make an ass of yourself and got my high on internet bullshitery for the week, thanks for that!👌

Keep barading me if you want, I'm bored af...

 

[vivalavida320315]

@John S here's an old thread I found:

CNT's tuned H3 questions?

I've been wondering...Why isn't CNT's tuned H3 merely a hard tensor with a tacky topsheet...

mytabletennis.net

 

[Jan_]

@John S here's an old thread I found:

CNT's tuned H3 questions?

I've been wondering...Why isn't CNT's tuned H3 merely a hard tensor with a tacky topsheet...

mytabletennis.net

You're a real one, thanks!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Let me be real with you for a sec...
Tony, I don't give a shit.

If talking shit to a rando on the Internet is your highlight of the day then you really need to get a life, or therapy, whatever works for you...

I'm a dude that plays for fun. I make a post to ask for help and you barge into the sub like you own it and try to project big dick energy like you own the damn place.

You have a company, that I guess makes good money, and props on that. But guess how many people care and how many in here are 10 times more important than both of us combined. I'm not important, I thought it's obvious. But you're being an asshole and I guess that makes me important since you care enough to debate me? Idk...

So back to the point, I made you make an ass of yourself and got my high on internet bullshitery for the week, thanks for that!👌

Keep barading me if you want, I'm bored af...

Very simple
you talk a lot of nonsense, so I just had to correct you.
You the one talking shit if you haven't notice yet.

To this day, you have zero evidence, and now you said you didn't do research.
So clearly, no matter if you an amateur or pro, you are talking outside of your knowledge area but don't admit you are wrong about it.

And then you have the balls to call others a fraud, while you the fraud.
Stiga France...hahaha

I guess you never thought I am the real deal, as I do have access to many table tennis brands and many high level players and coaches in the world.

People in TTD are waiting for you to provide proof, otherwise, really, don't make stupid claims that you can't back them with.
and just maybe, believe in some things other than Ping Sunday, ie, the DHS interview by OOAK

 

[mihalichtheone]

I'm a dude that plays for fun. I make a post to ask for help

No, you literally are convinced in something, and convincing OTHERS that you're knowledgeable in the field saying:

That's how we learn about dhs since they never say a word about anything, they're not butterfly or donic, they're chinese idiots where secrecy is in their blood.

When you're really:

The I haven't done proper research

@Tony's Table Tennis has very good reputation on this forum and he proved this many times.

Just don't spread misinformation based on how glossy the topsheet is or pingsunday. BTW I completely agree that some of the pingsunday's videos are great, some are useless.

Some of your questions are googled easily, like this one:

how and why everything works with boosters

To Boost or Not To Boost

To Boost or Not to Boost A topic that is primed to elicit controversy on table tennis forums is boosting, i.e., the practice of applying certain liquids and oils onto rubber sponges for performance gains. To place boosting in the proper context, we need to travel back to...

blog.tabletennis11.com

and probably around million threads on this forum

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

@John S here's an old thread I found:

CNT's tuned H3 questions?

I've been wondering...Why isn't CNT's tuned H3 merely a hard tensor with a tacky topsheet...

mytabletennis.net

what do you have here that is evidence for John that the CNT players have different pips structures in the H3 compared to the national versions?

 

[vivalavida320315]

https://tabletennisforall.com/ma-long-equipment/