But the Japanese team speak of their intentions to defeat China all the time which is totally fine, They practice for it and plan strategies around it. Why do we see their orientation as benign?? Other teams do the same without the lip service too.
Many folks in China don't get it, either. There was a Tieba thread back before ATTC 2023 and Asian Games 2022 asking about that, along with the stated goals from JPN and KOR players. Threads like that have popped up from time to time for several years now. The overall reaction toward those goals has gotten more mild now as the folks seem to become familiar with it. Many of them used to find fault with it when Hirano started winning in 2017, and Harimoto and Ito in 2018, especially after news of DN/ZYL/CM/LSW having to write reports after the ATTC 2017 were picked up by the Japanese media and TV programs. It reached a peak when Mizutani/Ito won the XD gold at Tokyo 2020. Some of that has to do with historical reasons, I've seen Tieba comments that make the connection between Hayata's date of birth and a historical event between China and Japan. But as mentioned above, the sentiment toward them has become more favorable in the past two years as Hirano and Harimoto become more mature and less bold before the majors, and a lot of them even show sympathy for Ito despite her conceit. OTOH, Hayata is far more humble and has been quite popular in China.
为什么外协总是以击败中国队员为目标？ (Why do foreign associations always aim to defeat CNT players?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8578301980
And some example threads on how JNT players are seen in China.
2019/6
人品差，即使赢了也不受待见，何况被打得披头散发。伊藤真是恶心 (With a bad character, you will not be welcomed even if you win, let alone being creamed. Ito is really disgusting)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6150495883?pid=125916392026&cid=0#125916392026
I don't like Big Head [Ito's nickname] either, but what the original poster said about her character is still a bit up out of line. In fact, I think she is just a precocious child with a bit of temper who is not yet mentally mature. Among my students, there are many of those who are much more difficult to deal with than her, and those are not very good yet are persistent.
2023/11
平野美宇是怎么混成今天这样的 (How did Hirano Miu end up where she is today?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8754715110
dairy 一开始实力厚度明明是跟早田在伯仲之间的
为什么现在差距越来越大
我不觉得身高臂长打法是主要原因
感觉和教练还有她自己的进取心不足有很大关系
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端1楼2023-11-29 21:16
She was clearly on par with Hayata in terms of depth of strength from the beginning
Why is the gap getting bigger now?
I don’t think height and long arms are the main reason
I feel it has a lot to do with the coach and her own lack of aggressiveness
dairy 伊藤可以理解，本身就是靠变化和前三板吃饭的，怕熟。而且又没有练相持的身体条件和训练条件，年纪大了反应和速度也不如以前，没有心气很正常。平野美宇的打法正常来讲应该还是很有上升空间的，正手是不行，但至少没有太大框架问题。
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端2楼2023-11-29 21:20
Ito is understandable, as she relies on variations and the 3rd ball to make a living, and she is afraid of familiarity. Moreover, she lacks the physical and training conditions to work on her rally. As she gets older, her reaction and speed are not as good as before. It is normal to lose spirit. Normally speaking, Hirano Miu's playing style should still have room for improvement. The forehand is not good, but at least there is no big framework problem.
多慧核桃 有啥问题吗？平野现在排名挺好的啊
IP属地:北京3楼2023-11-29 21:25
What problems? Hirano’s ranking is quite good now
dairy: 各种小赛大赛没有打到自己水平该有的位置，因为她的实力厚度应该是和早田差距不大的
2023-11-29 21:27
In various tournaments, small and big, she did not reach the position where her level should be, because her depth of strength should not be much different from Hayata
2023/12
看情况，伊藤是离开国家队无缘明年奥运会了。 (Given the situation, Ito will leave the national team and miss next year's Olympics.)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8768827207?pid=149219063345&cid=0#149219063345
不见白龙 全日锦如果平野不失心疯，就是早田平野单打，美和团体。如果伊藤支棱，平野失心疯，就是早田伊藤单打，平野团体。日乒协肯定倾向于plan a。
IP属地:上海来自iPhone客户端3楼2023-12-07 14:15
If Hirano does not lose her mind, it will be Hayata, Hirano for singles and Miwa for team. If Ito hardens up and Hirano loses her mind, it would be Hayata, Ito for singles and Hirano for team. The JTTA is definitely leaning toward plan a.
伊藤都要哭了，让她亚运时闹。巴黎估计去不了。 (Ito almost cried, but she has herself to blame for throwing fits ahead of Asian Games. Probably won’t be able to go to Paris.)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8797359117?pid=149341445765&cid=0#149341445765
狂飚强 伊藤太心高气傲，以为拿了个奥运混双金牌所有人都得捧着她，比赛想打就打，不想打就自己闭门造车，亚运不给她单打机会索性就放弃团体，一点团队精神都没有，自己打不好就怪场外教练指导不好，输球了老是给自己找各种理由，还老是幻想自己能拿冠军，有点妄想症，跟日本乒协早就闹僵了，没啥成绩慢慢估计就被放弃了
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端18楼2023-12-17 10:38
Ito is too arrogant, thinking that after winning an Olympic mixed doubles gold medal, everyone has to prop her up. Playing whenever she wants to, and if she doesn't, she practices behind closed doors. Not giving her a chance to play singles at Asian Games, she simply ditched the team event. There is no team spirit at all. Blame the courtside coaching for her poor performance. When losing, always find various excuses for herself. And always fantasize that she can become the champion. She is a bit delusional. She has long been at odds with the JTTA. Without results, she will probably be cast away gradually.
张本打疯了 (Harimoto played out of his mind)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8779411718
日本是怎么输给韩国的 哪几个人丢了分 (How did Japan lose to South Korea? Who dropped the points?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8782016515
【伊藤】是真的真的可以正式宣告落幕了 ([Ito] Can really truly officially announce that the curtain falls)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8797548928
有生之年伊藤还有赢国乒主力的可能吗？ (Is it still possible for Ito to defeat the main force of CNT in her life?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8797714319
www.bilibili.com
www.bilibili.com
Ito
www.bilibili.com
