Finding a new rubber

HotPotTofu · Dec 3, 2017

Hi all i am having the current set up now
Stiga Clipper Cr WRB penhold
729 802-40 mystery III FH
Yasaka mark v 1.8mm BH
I do however flip and use rpb.

Im hoping to change the yasaka rubber
As ive been using it since 4 september 2016

Im looking into
Tibhar MX-P
Hurricane neo 3
729 battle II

I want a rubber that can generate more spin on serves and i dont usually loop but counter attack more often. Anyone has any recommendations? Others outside of these 3? Im definitely on a budget and so im looking more towards the chinese rubber side.

Cheers

The veangeance · Dec 3, 2017

Rakza 7 would be very good if u r good enough to tame it. I prefer stiga genesis m which is around the same cost as MX p .MX p is very bouncy and not good for playing neat the table or at least I'm my experience

HotPotTofu · Dec 3, 2017

I am trying the Tibhar series as it is said to be close to the Tenergy series. It is also cheaper in my country than rakza or around the same

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OhWell · Dec 3, 2017

Just to be clear, you say you want to change the Mark V. But you're talking about using it for serves. Will you be using the new rubber mostly for BH or for FH?

Chinese tacky rubbers are about as far from short pips as you'll get with offensive inverted rubbers: utterly terrible for flat hitting, extremely spin sensitive. They are great, but unless you're looking to develop a looping game, look elsewhere. MX-P is more like it.

If you still want to do lots of flat hitting, but on inverted, look for grippy rubbers with a more sparse pimple structure and lower throw. (I.e. not energy 05 style, more like energy 64; type B following this scheme: https://ttgearlab.com/2017/02/13/three-typical-pimple-geometires-of-new-generation-tension-rubbers/ ).

Others will have better suggestions than me.

Der_Echte · Dec 3, 2017

A 100 hours sheet of Stiga Calibra LT Plus... doesn't get much flatter than that.

Lightzy · Dec 3, 2017

Battle 2, out of that list.
But you don't really want to use it as a backhand when combined with pimples/anti. You want it on your forehand. All those rubbers you listed are forehand rubbers.

Simas · Dec 3, 2017

if you are on the budget and happy with your current Mark V, you could look at Sriver FX. It's classic Butterfly, so the quality is good, has some grip, soft sponge, good for BH, but it's not a tensor rubber, which are much more expensive.

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 4, 2017

OhWell said:
Just to be clear, you say you want to change the Mark V. But you're talking about using it for serves. Will you be using the new rubber mostly for BH or for FH?

Chinese tacky rubbers are about as far from short pips as you'll get with offensive inverted rubbers: utterly terrible for flat hitting, extremely spin sensitive. They are great, but unless you're looking to develop a looping game, look elsewhere. MX-P is more like it.

If you still want to do lots of flat hitting, but on inverted, look for grippy rubbers with a more sparse pimple structure and lower throw. (I.e. not energy 05 style, more like energy 64; type B following this scheme: https://ttgearlab.com/2017/02/13/three-typical-pimple-geometires-of-new-generation-tension-rubbers/ ).

Others will have better suggestions than me.

This post is worth rereading. Perhaps rerereading too.

UpSideDownCarl · Dec 4, 2017

Der_Echte said:
A 100 hours sheet of Stiga Calibra LT Plus... doesn't get much flatter than that.

This one might need a translator. But if you can figure out what Der is saying, this one deserves some kind of award.

From another perspective, Dawei 2008XP is probably an excellent choice and definitely worth the price tag.

Perhaps Der can give you the downlow on how he used that rubber to great effect for years in his classic Der_Echte special.

The veangeance · Dec 4, 2017

I have used mxp . I have been using Mark 5 once. Transition for mark 5 to mx p is very difficult

HotPotTofu · Dec 4, 2017

OhWell said:
Just to be clear, you say you want to change the Mark V. But you're talking about using it for serves. Will you be using the new rubber mostly for BH or for FH?

Chinese tacky rubbers are about as far from short pips as you'll get with offensive inverted rubbers: utterly terrible for flat hitting, extremely spin sensitive. They are great, but unless you're looking to develop a looping game, look elsewhere. MX-P is more like it.

If you still want to do lots of flat hitting, but on inverted, look for grippy rubbers with a more sparse pimple structure and lower throw. (I.e. not energy 05 style, more like energy 64; type B following this scheme: https://ttgearlab.com/2017/02/13/three-typical-pimple-geometires-of-new-generation-tension-rubbers/ ).

Others will have better suggestions than me.

Im a penholder and i do flip. So backhand and forehand is kinda the same thing. From your post chinese rubber seems for me. I flip so my short pimple side can flat hit while the other side will be able to loop and create more spin on serves!

HotPotTofu · Dec 4, 2017

UpSideDownCarl said:
This one might need a translator. But if you can figure out what Der is saying, this one deserves some kind of award.

From another perspective, Dawei 2008XP is probably an excellent choice and definitely worth the price tag.

Perhaps Der can give you the downlow on how he used that rubber to great effect for years in his classic Der_Echte special.

I see im not sure of which chinese rubber i should get
Hurricane neo 3
729 Battle II
Dawei 2008XP

Any suggestions and what are their differences for those who have tried them?

yogi_bear · Dec 4, 2017

Rakza 7 soft.for te rpb so tat it would be easier to lift underspin.

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