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Takkyu WI, that is absolute super stuff. ST is not a slouch in Tak-ku. I think I left Korea right before he got there, we missed out on meeting each other.

so you left out Korea for good ? you have to change your flag then... its confusing...
 
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TWI, DER_ECHTE is CONFUSING, so it is all good. I gotta keep the Goon Squad confused or they would corner me without my back-up crew.

Dont worry, I just moved from Northern VA to California. I leave my Korean flag up 'cause I love Korea. Heck, a TT pal borrowed my KJH and I moved before i could get it back, so my main blade is all wrong too !
 
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An EJ update sponsored by the Goon squad and Nexy Karis M, the rubber with so much control that you think you can do anything.

I have always liked the feeling of the Butterfly Amultart. Yes it is a rocket launcher but the feeling of Hinoki and ZLC has always been amazing. The blade has what I think is called (I don't think I invented the term) the "Hinoki grab", a unique vibration that you get when you hit with a Hinoki blade of some sort.

I thought about playing with a Hinoki blade for a while. I have played with the Rossi Emotion which has a very thin Hinoki outer ply. I wanted to do something from Nexy but I couldn't find the right combination from what I tested and I had blades I liked already. A friend of mine bought the Amultart and around the same time, a friend told me he could get a discount in a Butterfly blade so I decided to get a Garaydia ZLC, which is an Amultart with a different handle rebranded by Butterfly. I never seriously thought I would use it but it would be nice to have, even if it was kinda expensive. I was playing well with my IF ALC and working out what Karis did or did not so.

My friend with the Amultart seems to have become a much happier player using it. His balls come through the table faster. He can launch bombs from distance. His balls dip with lower trajectories. I hate playing him nowadays ever since he switched.

With Karis M, I have this feeling of control that is pretty amazing. It's the easiest modern rubber to use and understand that I have ever played with. So for the past few days, I have been testing the Garaydia ZLC with Karis M on both sides. If I can control the rubber, the blade may not be that much of an issue.

The good news is that the blade is really fast. The bad news is that the blade is really fast. But this is where Karis M helps a lot - I think I can try to handle this. I am going to lose to good players for a while as I will be over hitting heavy spin over the table and probably in some rallies as well. But the blocks and off the table shots are ridiculously easier. When I say ridiculously easier, I can hit shots from places I would not consistently go to for fear of breaking my arthritic shoulder.

On Friday night, I played some matches with a guy who has gotten better as well as a 2300 player with the Garaydia. I lost the two matches 0-3. Then I picked up my Primorac OFF- and beat the player who had gotten better in two re-matches. Made me wonder if I was doing the right thing.

On Saturday, I hit with my very first coach, who is a chopper. My club has some internal politics and individual situations that make it hard for me to find regular training. So I was looping with the Garaydia. The thing with the Garaydia is that when I hit the right ball, the pace and power is tremendous. But right now, I do not hit the tricky ball too well. Got frustrated and tried the Primorac. Became more consistent but not as powerful. I asked the coach what he thought. He said that if I am going to put in the time, the Garaydia looks great.

Patience is a virtue, they say. I have decided to be patient.

If you got through all that, which was basically a way of talking myself into sticking with the Garaydia for at least two months, thanks. Karis M is not going anywhere though and it is my New Year resolution to use that for the year.
 
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Today Schlaftablette paid me a visit from Korea. We had a nice knock together for more than 2 hours. He even played some fellow Koreans who are based in Tokyo whom I introduced to him. He didn't lie or brag and was really at least 2 levels above me.

We did various drills and ended with a game which he won straight without really needing to play his best game, but i think i fought decently, and had a few chances to win at least one set but I missed those chances. Maybe next time...

Anyway, there were a lot of nice rallies, and it was a lot of fun.

Should have had a camera!
 
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I heard some players at my local club having a heated discussion and so thought I would gauge people's opinions on here.

So, here's a question for you guys, and I'm interested to hear your responses.

Do you think left-handers gain any sort of advantage, if the majority of players in a club are right handed?

Good players can adjust to play left handers (which explains why there is no significant trend in WTTC Rankings) but if 8/10 opponents in a club are right handed, then do you think the left handed players have any sort of advantage from this?

Discuss :)

Fun Fact - Google reckons anywhere between 70-95% of people in the world are right handed :)
 
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I heard some players at my local club having a heated discussion and so thought I would gauge people's opinions on here.

So, here's a question for you guys, and I'm interested to hear your responses.

Do you think left-handers gain any sort of advantage, if the majority of players in a club are right handed?

Good players can adjust to play left handers (which explains why there is no significant trend in WTTC Rankings) but if 8/10 opponents in a club are right handed, then do you think the left handed players have any sort of advantage from this?

Discuss :)

Fun Fact - Google reckons anywhere between 70-95% of people in the world are right handed :)

Yes. Any time you're less familiar with a matchup, you're at a disadvantage.
 
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Yes. Any time you're less familiar with a matchup, you're at a disadvantage.

That's what I thought, but some disagree which is fine.

I guess a counter argument could be that LH players are often FH reliant, and a lot of RH players thrive off this i.e FZD vs Xu Xin.

But, I guess being reliant on the FH is their choice...
 
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I heard some players at my local club having a heated discussion and so thought I would gauge people's opinions on here.

So, here's a question for you guys, and I'm interested to hear your responses.

Do you think left-handers gain any sort of advantage, if the majority of players in a club are right handed?

Good players can adjust to play left handers (which explains why there is no significant trend in WTTC Rankings) but if 8/10 opponents in a club are right handed, then do you think the left handed players have any sort of advantage from this?

Discuss :)

Fun Fact - Google reckons anywhere between 70-95% of people in the world are right handed :)

Great discussion question!

Initially I will say yes, left handers do have an advantage as they are more used to playing right handers. But then, it depends on the circumstances. If in a hypothetical situation, where a group of TT players are trapped on an isolated island, with 8 right handers and 2 lefties, then you can say, the lefties get to play more righties. But then, if they were to play each other for an extended period of time, they will eventually get used to each other's play style. That includes the righties getting used to the style of 2 lefties.

Now in a different situation, if you were to say whether the lefties will have an advantage of playing against righties overall (not limited to the players in the club), I would say, they probably do, but also depends on whether the righties in other clubs have made an effort to play against lefties more often. For example, during my stay in HK, I have actually been playing against lefties more often than righties, so if I was to play against a leftie when i go back to aus as compared to a player of equal skills and fitness who has not been playing against lefties, well then you can say I do have a higher chance of winning against a leftie given I am more familiar than the other guy against lefties.

I think this applies to the top players in the world as well. If a country wants to develop a top rightie player but they don't let that player to play against any lefties, the rightie won't do well when he does face a leftie, but they won't do that, because it is crucial that the rightie also get exposed to lefties, preferably with high expertise as well.

So I guess, it can become an advantage for the lefties if the righties allow it to happen, by not grabbing the opportunities to play against lefties. Yes I know, there are more righties than lefties, but doesn't mean you cant find any leftie to play against (unless where you live really have no leftie and you have no means of getting exposed to them). Otherwise where there is a will, there is a way.

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Jeff,

Great response, I totally agree it is all about taking opportunities to play more vs LH's.

I just don't think it is just a coincidence that the no.1 player on my island is a LH haha :)

Granted, he has worked super hard over the years, but I do think being LH in a RH dominated club helps him a decent amount :) The more I play him, the more I am working out ways of beating him.
 
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That's what I thought, but some disagree which is fine.

I guess a counter argument could be that LH players are often FH reliant, and a lot of RH players thrive off this i.e FZD vs Xu Xin.

But, I guess being reliant on the FH is their choice...

They clearly gain an advantage and all the stats show that they are over represented at the top levels of racket sports and this is the reason most often given.

That said, some people believe that it makes them lazy relative to their talent levels (it's a comment I have heard ascribed to Wang Liqin).

It's not about forehand reliance but more about the ball and spins coming from places that you are not used to on a regular basis. If you play the TTEDGE app, you will see that you will score differently for the left and right handed modes in the app. I score slower on the left handed modes.
 
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I heard some players at my local club having a heated discussion and so thought I would gauge people's opinions on here.

So, here's a question for you guys, and I'm interested to hear your responses.

Do you think left-handers gain any sort of advantage, if the majority of players in a club are right handed?

Good players can adjust to play left handers (which explains why there is no significant trend in WTTC Rankings) but if 8/10 opponents in a club are right handed, then do you think the left handed players have any sort of advantage from this?

Discuss :)

Fun Fact - Google reckons anywhere between 70-95% of people in the world are right handed :)

There is a significant trend in WTTC rankings. Who said otherwise?
How many left handles are in the general population. In the top 20, we have Xu Xin, Timo Boll, Marcos Freitas, Koki Niwa , Jun Mizutani. That's an easy 25%.

On the CNT, even below the top level, where there is 1 in 4, there is Lin Gaoyuan, Yu Ziyang, Shang Kun, Wang Chuqin, and probably others I don't remember right now.
 
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There is a significant trend in WTTC rankings. Who said otherwise?
How many left handles are in the general population. In the top 20, we have Xu Xin, Timo Boll, Marcos Freitas, Koji Nowak, Jun Mizutani. That's an easy 25%.

On the CNT, even below the top level, where there is 1 in 4, there is Lin Gaoyuan, Yu Ziyang, Shang Kun, Wang Chuqin, and probably others I don't remember right now.

Good point.

I mean sure, I guess there is a trend, but its not anything ridiculous like the 9 of the top 10 players are left handed.

But you're definitely right, in comparison to the amount of LH in the gen population, there is a significant number of them in the top 20. I hadn't thought of it comparatively :)
 
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That's what I thought, but some disagree which is fine.

I guess a counter argument could be that LH players are often FH reliant, and a lot of RH players thrive off this i.e FZD vs Xu Xin.

But, I guess being reliant on the FH is their choice...

And then it comes to left handed players being unfamiliar with those outliers that thrive off over-reliant forehand lefty's. Still unfamiliarity giving an advantage.
 
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I was trolling on MYTT a few weeks ago (because that's all that forum is good for really), and I said that all left-handers were essentially cheaters and they didn't have a right to complain when facing someone with an illegal serve. I was just kidding, but it's always fun to get under the skin of lefties.
 
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I'm a leftie and have had a few people "complain".. ironically I also prefer to not play other lefties in league games :p.
Also get the occasional one who doesn't realize I'm a leftie until several sets or the games over and go "ohh so that's why.."

I've also noticed that the people who have complained generally were at the lower levels or in the lower divisions. The better players seem to make a note of it and play their game around it and so have no need to complain or to make excuses. This is generally speaking of course. I feel like you see the same pattern when people use short/long pimples.

Been a while now since I've had anyone make a thing out of it though.
 
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Seen from a biological standpoint, being left handed is a minor handicap. Statistics say something like they have a bigger chance of heart diseases.
Where it gets interesting is that lefthanders get an advantage when there are about 90% right handers. So if they would still have to fight for their life they would have an advantage. Thats why there are always around 20-10% left handers in the population. If there are more, they lose their advantage.

Well you can argue that in our generation this doesnt matter anymore, and it really doesn't. However it comes into play if we speak 1on1 Sports, like fencing, tennis or ofc tabletennis.

Now Left handers have the same problem playing against other lefthanders, because playing something unfamiliar is always a handicap for you.
 
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And I think the fact that left handers often struggle with other left handers is what clinches it for me as a genuine issue and not just something that is irrelevant. Even Zhang Jike and Fan Zhendong had mild left hander issues.
 
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