DHS fans unite!

[ShoutGuy]

Opposite how?

Cheers
L-zr

I made a mistake. I thought the discussion was about hurricane slighty tacky vs very tacky

 

[Jslick89]

played a match with the DHS ball last night. really enjoyed it. felt slightly harder and more round than our normal club nittaku balls. I didn't look closely enough to see if it was the DJ40 though. Are those the top of the line DHS balls?

 

[PoorPingPong&PianoPlayer]

Since about 2 weeks I play with the Double Fish Volant Phoenix H40 on the FH, and it has everything I need. I've found my holy grail.

So, see you in 2025, @Zwill and DHS fans.

Some comparison with Rakza Z / Rakza Z Extra Hard, please?

 

[TT Lover]

Anybody tried DHS Power G7X blade ?
Looking for the kindness review.

Thank you sir.
Best regards

 

[latej]

Some comparison with Rakza Z / Rakza Z Extra Hard, please?

Hi, for me these are very different, the DFVP (and rubbers like H3, B2, etc.) have this dense micro-porous sponge, they are sometimes called linear, or dead, or whatnot. They simply have their characteristic feedback... ;-) The Rakza Z has at least a bit porous sponge, it is also not very fast, slightly tacky, but still has (for me) the ESN heritage.

The RZ is H37-H38, I measured it, it is less than declared, about the same as Rakza X (which nominally is softer). It is not a bad rubber at all, just not for me. I much prefer RX on the BH, and on the FH I prefer harder, like H40/H41 and micro-porous.

However, I did consider trying a bit more porous sponge with that hardness on the FH, so I tried BlueGrip C1/C2 and J&H Z52,5, and I also considered RZ EH, but I didn't try it yet. I think it could be quite good, but now I have couple of other sheets to use, so can't serve here, now and in the foreseable future...

The DFVP - I still have 2 unused new sheets in H40, if you happen to come to the czech TT-forum meeting, I offer for 80% ;-). However, my impression is that the durability is not very good, but given the price, it's OK.

 

[Zwill]

Go to TT-Japan, search Stiga Mantra Pro XH, that is my holy grail. The only rubber ever to come close to that was H3 Blue sponge national and Dingtian well boosted. Both are much more expensive and I have to fiddle with boosting them.
On TT-Japan the Mantra Pro is about 27EUR, ok you need to pay like ~7 EUR for shipping and some amount for VAT but still that is a super price especially if you buy a couple of sheets. If someone has option to buy from Taobao then it's even cheaper.

I also think the DF Polestar-P is a much better option than VP or H3 if one wants a sticky Chinese rubber.
It's kind of funny I write this in my DHS fans topic...

 

[latej]

Go to TT-Japan, search Stiga Mantra Pro XH, that is my holy grail. The only rubber ever to come close to that was H3 Blue sponge national and Dingtian well boosted. Both are much more expensive and I have to fiddle with boosting them.
On TT-Japan the Mantra Pro is about 27EUR, ok you need to pay like ~7 EUR for shipping and some amount for VAT but still that is a super price especially if you buy a couple of sheets. If someone has option to buy from Taobao then it's even cheaper.

Mantra Pro (I hope the one with 47,5 hardness) is indeed intriguing, I'd love to try on the BH. But it's cca 50E here and I get Vega X for cca 30E. So, until they sort it out...

 

[Zwill]

Mantra Pro (I hope the one with 47,5 hardness) is indeed intriguing, I'd love to try on the BH. But it's cca 50E here and I get Vega X for cca 30E. So, until they sort it out...

Mantra Pro M is about 47.5degs, and it's really overpriced (2x) in EU. But on TT Japan it's very reasonable and their service is good too. But postage takes ~2 weeks. I just buy the Mantra from there out of convenience and good service and I buy it by the dozens, since everyone at the club loves them.

 

[mihalichtheone]

H3 prov blue sponge with 2 layers of booster is the best FH I've ever tried. Loop kills are easy, the spin is amazing, the control is out of this world.

It's sad that booster evaportated in around 2-3 weeks...though economically speaking, it's the same as purchasing dignics 09c and playing with it for half a year or so without need of reboost and reglue.

Just outputting my thoughts..

 

[mihalichtheone]

Boosting in progress

 

[_ak]

If you are a DHS simp or heck if you are a hater or anything in-between (a normal human being??) this thread should unite all of us who have feelings towards them.

I am about to start the opposite thread 🤣 Won't do it on Reddit due stupid karma concept

- You have tried H3 and it is the most spinny and controlled rubber that ever existed!
- You think H3 is a fantastic rubber but it is very slow, but with a bit of extra effort (boosting) it can be turned into the best rubber on the market!

After some wasted rubbers, money and time you understand that eurojap make equipment for players. China follows the philosophy either adapt to whatever we give you or die. And Chinese pros tend to die(retire) young. Gazillion of variations of the same rubber shows they simply have no clue what's the hell they are doing. Such fragmentation simply has no economical sense at all. And no care about ITTF rules at all.

- You bought a sheet of Hurricane 8-80 and for about 25USD you found that it performs similarly to Dignics 09c but for easier to use!

Hell no. Also you bought bunch of other rubbers that went into rubbish bin too soon. So possibly some BTY/ESN rubber would be actually cheaper. Also they have different grades of boosters 🤪

- DHS no15 glue is the best thing since sliced bread, sticks well enough, doesn't damage your blade, easy to remove, thick enough, cheap, doesn't stink!

WBG should not stink. Period. Not cheaper than European glues (in EU). There is no magic.

- DHS limba top ply blades have better quality than BTY while being cheaper!

I wish but keep on dreaming. Splintering top layers, idiotic handles, head shapes, scum Ali sellers. After some Chinese blades I think I could just buy a BTY Innerforce Layer for similar amount of money I spent on Chinese EJ and just forget it.

Yes, balls are good.

 

[TT Lover]

Boosting in progress
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Is it DHS 301X or DHS 301T blade in the above of your photo.

 

[ttarc]

H3 prov blue sponge with 2 layers of booster is the best FH I've ever tried. Loop kills are easy, the spin is amazing, the control is out of this world.

It's sad that booster evaportated in around 2-3 weeks...though economically speaking, it's the same as purchasing dignics 09c and playing with it for half a year or so without need of reboost and reglue.

Just outputting my thoughts..

H3 Provincial BS can be bought for around 36€ (around 43€ incl. 19% import sales tax) 1) 2) Haifu Seamoon for around 15€ (homemade booster would be even cheaper and is sufficient for my liking and longer lasting)
Never played with D09C but say its topsheet is twice as durable as the one on my Glayzer 09C (<= 30 hours before the grip in the main hitting area was too low) than that's still less than what I get from my H3s. Usually the provincials are used for matches only and a bit training to break them in. When I think they are not good enough for league matches they get "degraded" to training rubbers 3) that can be used for many months (maybe up to half a year) incl. reboosting etc.
D09C is 79.90€ vs maybe 44€ incl. booster for H3 BS... can't remember how many rubbers I can (re)boost with one Seamoon bottle (H3 37 for BH needs a bit more booster )

1) https://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&products_id=4398
2) https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=NEOH3provincialblue
3)

mine usually do not bubble like this but that's still OK for practicing

 

[davidzhang]

H3 Provincial BS can be bought for around 36€ (around 43€ incl. 19% import sales tax) 1) 2) Haifu Seamoon for around 15€ (homemade booster would be even cheaper and is sufficient for my liking and longer lasting)
Never played with D09C but say its topsheet is twice as durable as the one on my Glayzer 09C (<= 30 hours before the grip in the main hitting area was too low) than that's still less than what I get from my H3s. Usually the provincials are used for matches only and a bit training to break them in. When I think they are not good enough for league matches they get "degraded" to training rubbers 3) that can be used for many months (maybe up to half a year) incl. reboosting etc.
D09C is 79.90€ vs maybe 44€ incl. booster for H3 BS... can't remember how many rubbers I can (re)boost with one Seamoon bottle (H3 37 for BH needs a bit more booster )

1) https://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&products_id=4398
2) https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=NEOH3provincialblue
3)

mine usually do not bubble like this but that's still OK for practicing

Have you tried to boost G09c?

 

[GlennChu]

played a match with the DHS ball last night. really enjoyed it. felt slightly harder and more round than our normal club nittaku balls. I didn't look closely enough to see if it was the DJ40 though. Are those the top of the line DHS balls?

I think DJ40+ is the top of DHS ball lines, but there are different DJ40 balls, the normal version has WTT sign on the back side of the ball, and the Tokyo Olympics version seems to be more round and consistent, it is the best ball I ever played(but cost real a lot!).
There is also a cheaper DHS ball called D40+, a little less consistent, but still not a bad choice to play

 

[longle]

H3 prov blue sponge with 2 layers of booster is the best FH I've ever tried. Loop kills are easy, the spin is amazing, the control is out of this world.

It's sad that booster evaportated in around 2-3 weeks...though economically speaking, it's the same as purchasing dignics 09c and playing with it for half a year or so without need of reboost and reglue.

Just outputting my thoughts..

no it's not. The topsheet of H3 stays sticky through its lifespan while the tack of D09c evaporates after 3 weeks

 

[mihalichtheone]

Is it DHS 301X or DHS 301T blade in the above of your photo.

That's 301X.

no it's not. The topsheet of H3 stays sticky through its lifespan while the tack of D09c evaporates after 3 weeks

But the sponge on d09c still is good though?

I reglued my H3 with 1 layer of booster today and sadly it's not that lively as it was after first boost with 2 layers 🤔Much better than after 3 weeks after first boost though.

I also noticed that on harder blades the effect of the booster is much more noticeable: I feel the deadness of the rubber on the ZJK much more than on 301X.

 

[longle]

That's 301X.

But the sponge on d09c still is good though?

I reglued my H3 with 1 layer of booster today and sadly it's not that lively as it was after first boost with 2 layers 🤔Much better than after 3 weeks after first boost though.

I also noticed that on harder blades the effect of the booster is much more noticeable: I feel the deadness of the rubber on the ZJK much more than on 301X.

yes the sponge and the grippyness of D09c still good for 6 months, same as H3 unboosted.

the downside of boosting H3 is that you have to frequently reboost and reglue (I do it weekly )

 

[TT Lover]

That's 301X.

But the sponge on d09c still is good though?

I reglued my H3 with 1 layer of booster today and sadly it's not that lively as it was after first boost with 2 layers 🤔Much better than after 3 weeks after first boost though.

I also noticed that on harder blades the effect of the booster is much more noticeable: I feel the deadness of the rubber on the ZJK much more than on 301X.

What is the main difference between ZJK and 301X, such as Flexible > Stiffness > Control > Speed of these two blades.

Thank you sir.
Best regards,

 

[Jslick89]

yes the sponge and the grippyness of D09c still good for 6 months, same as H3 unboosted.

the downside of boosting H3 is that you have to frequently reboost and reglue (I do it weekly )

how many times have you boosted a single sheet of H3?

This is my first go around with a sheet of H3N. This is what I did:

Played with the rubber unboosted for approx 2-3 weeks. Then I boosted with 2 layers of seamoon and 2 layers of DHS #15.

Then i played with that rubber for nearly 7 months. last week i noticed a lot of my shots just went into the net that really shouldn't be.

So over this last weekend, I boosted with one layer of seamoon and layer of DHS #15. Played last night and that thing felt basically brand new.