JTTA: Selection System to be Revamped for Paris 2024

[zeio]

大家来点评一下奥运五个项目的危险排序吧 (Let’s comment on the danger ranking of the five Olympic events)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8919172579
贴吧用户_JaCZAEG 女团早田一单的话，不危险
平野一单危险
中国不敢让莎女之外的人两盘单打，所以莎女锁一单，早田打不过莎女
平野/美和双右，又没有伊藤或木原这种双打中奇效的颗粒胶，上限不会高于上周期的石川/平野，但早田/美和就不一定了
对日本来说，早田美和双打，平野一单早田三单，最有冲击力，就看早田愿不愿意屈尊了
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端13楼2024-03-03 21:55收起回复
It’s not dangerous if Hayata plays 1st singles in WT
Hirano playing 1st singles is dangerous
China will not dare let anyone other than daughter Sha play two singles, so daughter Sha is locked in 1st singles, and Hayata could not beat daughter Sha
Hirano/Miwa double righty, and there is no miraculous pips in doubles like Ito or Kihara, so the upper limit will not be higher than Ishikawa/Hirano in the previous cycle, but Hayata/Miwa are not necessarily the same
For Japan, Hayata/Miwa for doubles, Hirano for 1st singles and Hayata 3rd singles are the most impactful. It depends on whether Hayata is willing to deign [lower herself]
贴吧用户_5E372UM: 没错，最危险的就是日本女团这个阵型，平野一单拿不拿得到分不重要，要的就是第一盘女双抢分搞国乒心态
2024-3-4 11:38回复
Yes, that is the most dangerous formation for Japan's WT. It doesn't matter whether Hirano can score points playing 1st singles. The goal is to take the first WD match to mess with the CNT's psyche

 

[zeio]

Before I forget...

如果平野与美和互换位置，日本队会赢吗？——再论釜山决赛 (If Hirano and Miwa switched places, would Japan win? - on Busan Final again)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8916643916?pid=149869851097&cid=149903928678#149903928678
贴吧用户_Q91NSeN: 张本妹冲击力是强！但论经验以及整体技术厚度还真不如平野！别不服气！看看陈梦稍微变个发正手球后张本妹就不会打了！换平野这种老手真不会！当然不是说平野一定赢陈梦！但肯定是平野更难打！看以前陈梦赢平野也是很接近的！何况也输过！
2024-3-8 14:51回复
Harimoto sister's impact is strong! But in terms of experience and overall technical depth, she is really not as good as Hirano! Don't doubt! Look how CM changed her serve to the FH and Harimoto sister didn't know how to play! A veteran like Hirano wouldn’t have fallen for it! Of course it doesn’t mean that Hirano would definitely win against CM! But Hirano is definitely more difficult to play! CM and Hirano were very close in previous matches! Not to mention she's even lost before!

奥运女单二号 (2nd WS spot for Olympics)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8927498311?pid=149910101522&cid=149910129248#149910129248
巴拉巴拉小猪 法兰克福陈梦输斯大妈，她机会就不大了，鱼守半区过早田赢很大，所以混团就给鱼机会打单打，鱼也接住了，一时风光无两，路透都是眉飞色舞的。大家也认为鱼很有机会积分第二，后来名古屋输陈幸同，其实鱼也没看出来伤心，机场也是喜笑颜开，阳历年的时候换上了巴黎225头像，意味着巴黎势在必得，一切应该从多哈说起来，陈梦又打到了第三，鱼也没想到教练组会真的按照排名不给她淘汰赛，那天确实是临时换人，鱼失魂落魄打电话，但是其实也还好，没有表现太过失落和兴奋，直到决赛梦迪接连失误，给了鱼又一次机会，就是这次新加坡大满贯，鱼今天就开始备战早田了，她也知道早田就是她的救命稻草
In Frankfurt, CM lost to Auntie Szocs, and her chances are not good. Fish [TL's note: WMY] gained a lot after defending her half and getting past Hayata, so the Fish was given a chance to play singles at XTWC 2023, and Fish nailed it. The situation was unparalleled for a while, and she was all elated in clips. Everyone also thought that Fish had a good chance of being second in points. Later, she lost to CXT in Nagoya, but in fact, Fish didn't look sad at all. She was also smiling at the airport. On New Year's Day, she changed her avatar to "Paris225", meaning that Paris was bound to happen. Speaking of which, everything should've started from Doha, CM reached third place again. Fish didn't expect that the coaching staff would really go by ranking and would not field her in knockout stage. It was indeed a temporary substitution that day. Fish made a phone call in despair, but it was actually okay. She didn't show too much disappointment and excitement, until MengDi made consecutive mistakes in the final, giving Fish yet another chance, which is this Singapore Smash. Fish started preparing for Hayata today, and she also knew that Hayata was her life-saving straw.
IP属地:辽宁来自iPhone客户端4楼2024-03-09 17:29收起回复
牛奶咖啡: 她现在赢早田其实问题不大 (There shouldn't be too much problem for her to win against Hayata now)
2024-3-9 17:30回复
巴拉巴拉小猪: 回复 牛奶咖啡 :我也觉得没问题，但是她明显没这样觉得，按理说今天没必要和左手练 (I think so as well, but she obviously doesn't think so. Logically speaking, there was no need to practice with lefty today)
2024-3-9 17:33回复
贴吧用户_5NK5XCK: 但是你说平野神经刀 要是刀了早田 那就好玩了 (But like you said Hirano the Wild Blade, it would be fun if Hirano knifed Hayata)
2024-3-9 17:34回复
巴拉巴拉小猪: 回复 贴吧用户_5NK5XCK :正常没可能，但是早田应该是病了10来天，所以很有可能 (Normally it's impossible, but Hayata must have been sick for about 10 days, so it's very possible)
2024-3-9 17:35回复

 

[zeio]

Singapore Smash 2024
Hayata 0-3 Hirano
The second BH from Hirano is not easy to pull off.
https://youtu.be/a2e7V9VUDxw?t=4282

Hayata: What to do when you can't play at 100%...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVm6uktdfI0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVm6uktdfI0&lc=UgwZIqgoH8VYORNjnIl4AaABAg
@user-fm3sw8gv9b 1 hour ago
去年もこの時期悪かったのでよっぽど会場が合わないのかと思ったら体調が悪かったのですね。
3月は鬼門なのかも。でも去年はここからグイグイ上がってくる姿を見てるので体調整えられるときにしっかり整えてほしい。
She had a bad time last year at this time, so I thought maybe the venue wasn't a good fit, but I guess it was because she wasn't feeling well.
Maybe March is a gloomy month. But last year I saw her improve rapidly from here, so I want her to get in shape when she can.

Hirano: I didn't think I could win in straight games...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iQgL16ryxQ

https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2024/03/033148.html

■平野美宇 試合後インタビュー

Q．日本人対決となった初戦、ストレート勝利。振り返ってみて

今大会、16シードあった中で17番目だったので。

自分の世界ランクが低いせいで早田選手のところに入って、「ここまできて日本人対決か」という気持ちはあったのですが、五輪のシングルスで絶対にメダルを獲りたいという気持ちがあるので。できるだけ勝ち上がって、世界ランクを上げるために頑張ろうという気持ちで挑みました。


Q．勝利の要因は？

サーブ、レシーブからしっかりと点が取れて、ラリーも自分のタイミングで終始できた。そこで少し上回ることができたのかな。


Q．早田選手からストレート勝利は自信になるか？

ここ最近は負けてしまっていたので。厳しい試合になると思っていたのですが、まさかストレートで勝てるとは思わなかった。これを自信に変えて、また明日から頑張りたい。


Q．明日からの意気込みを

まずは一戦一戦と思っていたので、1試合でも多く、一戦でも多くという気持ちを持ってやりたい。五輪に向けてもダブルスを強化したい。

今回から本格的に張本美和選手と組んで試合をするので。今回だけではなく五輪までは組んでいく機会がたくさんあると思うので、2人でしっかりと話し合って。シングルスだけではなく、ダブルスも1試合でも多く色々なペアと戦いたい。

■Miu Hirano Post-match interview

Q. The first match was against a Japanese, and you won in straight games. Can you go through it?
I was 17th out of 16 seeds in this tournament.

When I got drawn Hayata because of my low world ranking, I felt like, "I've come this far and I have to face off against a Japanese?", but I definitely want to win a medal in singles at the Olympics. So I took on the challenge with the mindset of trying my best to win as much as possible and raise my world ranking.

Q. What were the factors behind the victory?
I was able to score solid points from serve and receive, and was able to complete the rally at my own timing. I guess I did a little better there.

Q. Will a straight-game win over Hayata give you confidence?
I've been losing lately. I thought it would be a tough match, but I didn't expect to win in straight games. I want to turn this into confidence and try my best again tomorrow.

Q. Enthusiasm for tomorrow
First of all, I thought it would be one match at a time, so I want to do it with the mindset that every match is extra. I want to strengthen my doubles skills in preparation for the Olympics.

From this onward, I will be teaming up with Harimoto Miwa officially. I think there will be many opportunities to work together, not just this time, but up until the Olympics, so the 2 of us should have a thorough discussion. I want to compete not only in singles, but also in doubles, with as many different opponent pairs as possible.

https://weibo.com/7439669537/O4pARqBrI
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cF4m1c7oo

 

[zeio]

Ito must have gotten much more hours of sleep after the selection race. The pips are gone from her face and the complexion looks like inverted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El1IMz0MCN0

 

[zeio]

Hirano takes responsibility for the WD loss and says she made mistakes on some receives and 3rd balls, and that she should've calmed down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WvutrLjeJA

 

[zeio]

On facing each other, both Hirano and Ito say the selection race has ended and so they will be able to play with determination.

Hirano will play with the challenger mindset, doesn't really mind the matches in the past year, and believes in her growth in that time. The mental, technical and tactical aspects are also important and the demonstration of comprehensive strength will be the key. On the big WR points, she won't get too hung up but will try to win as many matches and increase the WR before July.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFZcfBEGvs
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cy421q7mW

Ito will play by observing the opponent and looking for openings. She is determined to win, but at the same time must perform at will, especially on crucial points, that clutch play is her advantage [Has that been the case in this cycle other than playing Hayata?].
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUb2yDS8O40 (Japan's IP needed)
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mt421L78X

TV Tokyo's report
Hirano: I'm always in good form when spring comes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnVFER1ZE4 (Japan's IP needed)

 

[zeio]

https://mao.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/pingpong/1709891525/
0147名無しＱ(･∀･)ﾉ゜ｻｧﾝ!!
2024/03/10(日) 03:27:41.87ID:8/GxhgwE
国際大会に出まくってた時代はダブルスもたくさんやってたからなのか芝田と相性がいいからなのか分からないけど、これを見ると平野も本当はダブルスが上手いはずなんだよね。やっぱり国内選考を重視したことでダブルスやらなくなったから今はあんまりなのかな。
https://youtu.be/-IZ0vKXM1Xo?si=m1EfxNYfyJ1bpxbE
I don't know if it's because she played a lot of doubles when she was competing in international competitions or because she has good chemistry with Shibata, but looking at this, it seems like Hirano must actually be good at doubles as well. After all, she stopped playing doubles because she focused on the domestic selection, so I guess it's not so much now.

 

[zeio]

真没想到，新加坡大满贯的最得意的人居然是 (I never expected that the most complacent persons in the Singapore Smash are actually)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8936547728
小水326 釜山最失意的那拨人。

釜山坐冷板凳的伊藤
釜山输外战的大迪
感叹自己这次小组赛居然可以上两场的同同

竞技体育真是此一时彼一时，不过10天，境遇居然完全对调（只说这一场）
IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端1楼2024-03-15 19:01
The most frustrated bunch of people in Busan.

Ito benched in Busan
BIg Di lost the foreign battles in Busan
TongTong who lamented she was able to play two matches in the group stage

Competitive sports really come and go, within 10 days, the situation was completely reversed (just talking about this one)

 

[zeio]

https://weibo.com/7360795486/O5jzjF6hK
Harimoto/Hayata have withdrawn from the World XD Olympic Qualification Event. Hayata's longstanding issue strikes again?

Official ITTF page
https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2931/2024WorldXDQual/
Players' Entry List
https://wtt.ittf.link/index.php?opt...156&resetfilters=1&fabrik_incsessionfilters=0
Entry list - Mixed Doubles
https://wtt.ittf.link/index.php?opt...=XD&resetfilters=1&fabrik_incsessionfilters=0

 

[zeio]

Ito on 3-2 Hirano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hwJNgQ-Jk (Japan's IP needed)
Hirano on 2-3 Ito
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AknaTYMzo8 (Japan's IP needed)

伊藤美誠 心の中で闘志燃やす「意地でも勝つ。絶対に勝ってやるぞ」国際大会10連勝中の平野に逆転勝ち【卓球 シンガポールスマッシュ】
https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/tabletennis/news/2024/03/033240.html

■伊藤美誠 試合後インタビュー

Q．ベスト8進出、今の心境は？

日本人対決で勝利できたことはすごくよかった。リードされた中で逆転で勝ててよかったです。負けているから思い切ってできた部分もありますが、（第4ゲーム）10-10から取ることができた。第5ゲームは完璧にプレーできて、楽しんで試合ができました。「意地でも勝つ」という気持ちが良かったのかなと思います。


Q．同年代の平野選手との対決。どのようなモチベーションで試合をした？

（五輪）選考会が全て終わったあとでの大会で、すごくリラックスして試合ができた。心の中で闘志を燃やして「絶対に勝ってやるぞ」という気持ちでやっていたので。選考レースで負けた悔しさをここにぶつけた。

選考レースで平野選手の方が勝ち数が多かったので、平野選手の方が上にいったので。自分は格上の選手を戦うつもりでやりました。


Q．自分の良さはどの部分で発揮できた？

練習でやっていたことができた。それが勝ちにつながったと思う。自分は思い切ってやるだけだったので、最後まで思い切ってできた。


Q．準々決勝への意気込みをお願いします

王曼昱選手が勝ち上がって来ると思って準備したい。もし戦うことになったら久々の試合なのですごく楽しみです。強い選手と試合できることはうれしい。

今日はしっかりと休んで、いっぱい食べて、いっぱい寝て明日頑張りたい。

 

[zeio]

Harimoto/Hayata on 1-3 LJH/SYB
【インタビュー】張本智和/早田ひな 韓国ペアに敗北し決勝進出ならず「オリンピックまで良い準備をする、練習するしかない」｜シンガポールスマッシュ2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAczyuTVU_Y (Japan's IP needed)
Harimoto on 2-3 LJK
【インタビュー】張本智和 16強で終戦 中国・梁靖崑にフルゲームの末に敗れる｜シンガポールスマッシュ2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewaoHIDFZ8 (Japan's IP needed)

Miwa on 0-3 SYS
【インタビュー】中学生・張本美和 悔し涙「悔しい... もっともっと練習が必要」世界女王に完敗｜シンガポールスマッシュ2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KDlOiEMT8g

 

[driversbeat]

https://weibo.com/7360795486/O5jzjF6hK
Harimoto/Hayata have withdrawn from the World XD Olympic Qualification Event. Hayata's longstanding issue strikes again?

Official ITTF page
https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2931/2024WorldXDQual/
Players' Entry List
https://wtt.ittf.link/index.php?opt...156&resetfilters=1&fabrik_incsessionfilters=0
Entry list - Mixed Doubles
https://wtt.ittf.link/index.php?opt...=XD&resetfilters=1&fabrik_incsessionfilters=0

Will Japan even make the finals of Olympics XD? Personally I don't think female lefty/male righty is a winning formula. All the other 3 semifinalists had the opposite combination. Jeon Jihee/Lee Sangsu didn't even make semifinals last Olympics.

 

[Shine]

Are they ( TH/HH) not already qualified for the Olympics XD event?? All these 2nd and 3rd places at the majors should count for something, no?

 

[zeio]

Unfortunately not. LGY/WYD got the AS Qualification at ATTC 2023 (declined, obviously).

https://www.ittf.com/tournament/2603/paris-2024-olympic-games/
https://www.ittf.com/?media-alias=f90260ddfc9e9e563ce6

 

[driversbeat]

Hayata drops from 5 to 6
Ito moves from 14 to 8
Miwa and Hirano also move up to 12 and 14 respectively.

Hirano is now 9th seed for the Olympics, still behind Nina.

 

[zeio]

Whereas Ishikawa used to be a CNT maid, Ito is like a CNT guard dog now.

 

[zeio]

This is getting out of hand...

Chongqing Takes Centre Stage as New Host for WTT Champions this May
https://worldtabletennis.com/description?artId=3584

 

[backspacer]

So many big events in China/Asia.

 

[KiwiPong]

Why is this getting out of hand? (Sorry did I miss some posts?)

 

[zeio]

FZD has dropped to 3rd seed for Paris 2024 after Singapore Smash 2024.

CNT: Gotta fix that.

Men's Singles
2024 Week #12 - March 19th
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024_12_OLYMPICS_MS.html
Men's Singles
2024 Week #11 - March 12th
https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024_11_OLYMPICS_MS.html