Looking for a blade with control and touch

[Trevize84]

Hello, I'm looking for a new blade. Could you help me finding the right one?

I currently use a Butterfly Primorac OFF- (european version), I did like it in many ways but since I tried the Butterfly Primorac (Made in Japan) I realized what "a blade with touch" actually means. So now I want that feeling! Unfortunately that specific version of that blade isn't easy to find. So here is some information that might be useful for you to give me suggestions.

- Must have FL handle
- I liked the feel of the Butterfly Primorac (Made in Japan) and I want that kind of touch
- When I hit with my FH I used to like the nice ball-cracking sound of my old DHS 4002x (7 ply with H3 and G888)
- I like an offensive game and I tend to be a looper... I'm not saying I can manage to loop properly
- I'm a beginner and I need control more than speed, I guess it should be ALL+ or OFF-
- Because of my level and the characteristics I'm looking for, I believe blade should be 5-ply and all-wood (but up to you to prove me wrong on this)
- Do not consider price when suggesting, I prefer to invest in blade rather than rubbers

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated!

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Check out the OSP Virtuoso. One of the highest quality wood blades you can get IMO

 

[turbozed]

Nittaku Acoustic and Nittaku Violin. There are different options for handle sizes so see if you can handle one before you buy. They are both pricey blades but very high quality.

There was a poll recently here about what blade to choose for developing offensive player and Acoustic came out on top. Thread 'Choice of all-wood offensive blade - Survey' https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/choice-of-all-wood-offensive-blade-survey.28068/

 

[thomas.pong]

OSP Virtuoso and Nittaku Acoustic are great!

The XStar V from Butterfly is pretty similar to the Primorac OFF- JP.

 

[Gozo]

Tibhar Stratus Powerwood ( Five ply all-wood ) for the ultimate control but still with offensive capability.

 

[Oscarting]

Xiom allround S

 

[Krillo]

Butterfly Primorac Made in Japan - bredaste sortimentet av de populäraste varumärkena - ttex.se

Butterfly Primorac Made in Japan

www.ttex.se

 

[SFF_lib]

Hello, I'm looking for a new blade. Could you help me finding the right one?

I currently use a Butterfly Primorac OFF- (european version), I did like it in many ways but since I tried the Butterfly Primorac (Made in Japan) I realized what "a blade with touch" actually means. So now I want that feeling! Unfortunately that specific version of that blade isn't easy to find. So here is some information that might be useful for you to give me suggestions.

- Must have FL handle
- I liked the feel of the Butterfly Primorac (Made in Japan) and I want that kind of touch
- When I hit with my FH I used to like the nice ball-cracking sound of my old DHS 4002x (7 ply with H3 and G888)
- I like an offensive game and I tend to be a looper... I'm not saying I can manage to loop properly
- I'm a beginner and I need control more than speed, I guess it should be ALL+ or OFF-
- Because of my level and the characteristics I'm looking for, I believe blade should be 5-ply and all-wood (but up to you to prove me wrong on this)
- Do not consider price when suggesting, I prefer to invest in blade rather than rubbers

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated!

I happened to have a black tag Primorac OFF-. Great feel.

Similar blades include:

• Nittaku Violin
• Nittaku Acoustic
• DHS Hao 2

 

[merlin el mago]

I have an old Primorac Off- for sale. https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/for-sale-old-model-bty-primorac-off.26774/

 

[Wrighty67]

I third the OSP Virtuoso and preferred it to both Acoustic and Violin but not by a great deal. There are plenty of Japanese made Primorac that I see come up for sale used so maybe look here - also consider Korbel (Japan)

 

[merlin el mago]

Seven ply all wood my vote for Clipper.

 

[jammmail]

Donic Applegren gets my vote if you cant get a Primorac Japan.

 

[thomas.pong]

If you can wait until April, the new Butterfly Mizutani Major should be perfect for what you’re looking for:

https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/37281.html

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

If you can wait until April, the new Butterfly Mizutani Major should be perfect for what you’re looking for:

https://www.butterfly.co.jp/products/detail/37281.html

Looks like a repackaged Primorac. It caught my eye up until I saw that it will only come in flared. That's no bueno for me, and also a little funny because Mizutani has always used a straight handle

 

[thomas.pong]

Looks like a repackaged Primorac. It caught my eye up until I saw that it will only come in flared. That's no bueno for me, and also a little funny because Mizutani has always used a straight handle

It's actually a bit thicker than the Primorac, 5.7 vs. 5.5mm.

Mizutani actually switched to FL in the last few years of his career.

 

[ejprinz]

I found the Victas Swat (7-ply Limba top, 1150Hz) has great touch and control. My current tournament blade. Note it is much slower than e.g. the 7-ply Clipper (~1400Hz).

 

[thomas.pong]

I found the Victas Swat (7-ply Limba top, 1150Hz) has great touch and control. My current tournament blade. Note it is much slower than e.g. the 7-ply Clipper (~1400Hz).

That's a good blade too, a 7-ply on the thinner side.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

I found the Victas Swat (7-ply Limba top, 1150Hz) has great touch and control. My current tournament blade. Note it is much slower than e.g. the 7-ply Clipper (~1400Hz).

How heavy is yours? I have a rather light (~80g) Swat and I agree that it is a great blade. But my sample vibrates much more and has a smaller sweetspot than my 5 ply limba blades of similar thickness (SPW, OffS), its more similar to my Allround Evolutions in terms of feel and behavior, and I'm curious about trying one that is much heavier (85-90g) to see if it improves the stability.

 

[thomas.pong]

How heavy is yours? I have a rather light (~80g) Swat and I agree that it is a great blade. But my sample vibrates much more and has a smaller sweetspot than my 5 ply limba blades of similar thickness (SPW, OffS), its more similar to my Allround Evolutions in terms of feel and behavior, and I'm curious about trying one that is much heavier (85-90g) to see if it improves the stability.

I definitely think it would.

 

[mightymouse]

How heavy is yours? I have a rather light (~80g) Swat and I agree that it is a great blade. But my sample vibrates much more and has a smaller sweetspot than my 5 ply limba blades of similar thickness (SPW, OffS), its more similar to my Allround Evolutions in terms of feel and behavior, and I'm curious about trying one that is much heavier (85-90g) to see if it improves the stability.

Sorry to digress a bit off topic. I see that you have Stratus Power Wood and Offensive S, which one do you prefer the most and why?

As for the original topic, I once tried to bounce ball on Primorac Off- (Japan) and I found that it felt better compared to Primorac Off- (European version). The odd thing is that Japanese Primorac is quite thin (catalog states it is 5,5 mm in thickness), while my Europen Primorac is almost as thick as my Korbel (5.9 mm).

As for my recommendation, I think you should go for BTY Korbel (Japan) if you can't get any Primorac (Japan). As far as I know, Korbel is widely offered in stores, compared to Primorac Off-. I am talking Japanese version.