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I was referring to the OP but I should a been clear.

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You were crystal clear. I have been saying the same thing you said and trying to talk him out of it, but he doesn't GAS what I write.
 
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Ok. Who is the "goon squad"?

Now that is the real question. The only problem is, if you find out who the goon squad really is, TT companies may have the goon squad bring the NY and Philly Mafia in on the action.


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Besides, if more people had the kind of power on impact from their backhands that you have, there would be much fewer players turning to pips to cover up how weak their backhands are.


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Since you liked the videos, let me point you to the ultimate source of super backhand power. Look at the elbow crank that both Fan Zhendong and William Henzell are seen executing in the backhand flick videos. Once you master that crank, you have two forehands because you will figure out how to transfer a form of it, even at 25% power, into your other backhand strokes. And then you will start hitting one backhand loop and the ball won't come back. It's a very physical motion, but it is also very natural when kept compact and relaxed. You can break into sweat exercising that crank for 5 mins. But even 5% of its power in your backhand stroke gives you a better backhand loop than 95% of TT players.

If you don't get what I mean by the crank, watch the full FZD video - they discuss it a lot. They call it "unsheathing the sword". I am going to make my forehand "pulling a rip cord".
 
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BTW... I think you are over agonizing this decision x100...

I tried but personality trumps reason in these circumstances.

I was referring to the OP but I should a been clear.

You were crystal clear. I have been saying the same thing you said and trying to talk him out of it, but he doesn't GAS what I write.

Yep. NextLevel didn't miss a beat on your statement which is why we put hijack into effect. I knew exactly what NextLevel's response meant.

That is why the goon squad had to come in and clean up the mess. It may have even got so bad that the Philly Mafia and the NYC Crew got in on the job. Soon there will be cement shoes and no corpus delicti! Those guys don't like real, fake, pro, national rubbers that someone goes and tries to boost. There may even have been another incident with that bridge.
 
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And anyone who reads the last post and figures it out, you can pay me when you see me ;).

Being a guy who teaches people how to improve their body mechanics, I already get it. Being someone whose BH is definitely better than my FH, my body gets it. Even though, I do not work on my BH at all and work a lot on my FH. I sill can do a bunch of stuff with my BH that my FH can't do. But yeah, all from the pivot of the the elbow joint. And over the table the elbow points forward to add even more rotation to that pivot. But I should work on the BH mechanics. Biggest thing that my BH needs is my feet being a bit better.
 
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Hey guys again.

What do you think of this set up then:

Xiome Omega V europe or Pro FH
Stiga Airoc astro S or Joola Air BH
Timo boll forte or Priomorac off- Blade

I am not 100% sure about the blade if it would be good for these rubbers.

This is something you can't divine before the fact. If you don't like the blade, get a new one. But if you like the blade, it tends to go well with any popular rubber. Don't let the fact I hate butterfly all wood blades make you think I am too biased :p.
 
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Being a guy who teaches people how to improve their body mechanics, I already get it. Being someone whose BH is definitely better than my FH, my body gets it. Even though, I do not work on my BH at all and work a lot on my FH. I sill can do a bunch of stuff with my BH that my FH can't do. But yeah, all from the pivot of the the elbow joint. And over the table the elbow points forward to add even more rotation to that pivot. But I should work on the BH mechanics. Biggest thing that my BH needs is my feet being a bit better.

Hmm - maybe I should have served your BH more often - I just don't remember it that way. The biggest reason I recommend BH work is that you often (opportuned to or not ) your BH earlier in the point than your FH as a general rule (not talking about you specifically). And the earlier you have a chance to introduce a point winning weapon, the more important that weapon is.
 
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My BH is actually weak vs heavy backspin largely because of my feet and confidence. I don't practice it enough. My FH is actually better at opening against heavy backspin. But I don't work on the BH which I should. It is time to do that. But I get the mechanics of using the torc from the rotation of the forearm.

In spite of working on my FH and not working on my BH my BH is still the one that wins me more points.

Always more work to do. But if, overall, my FH was as good as my BH, I would be a level better. This is the case even though there is some cool stuff I can do with my FH that I can't possible do with BH like the amount of hook or the comfort in counterlooping.

Still, I am a few levels lower than you in terms of skill sets.


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With the rubbers like. Omega V europe/pro and the aircraft astronomy or joola air. Should I have a soft wood mid or hard blade or is there important? I quite like the primorac off- that I am using now.

Are there any off- blades you could recommend?

Once you like your blade, you can put pretty much anything on it. The Primorac is one of the most popular blades in the world. I just don't like it.
 
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My BH is actually weak vs heavy backspin largely because of my feet and confidence. I don't practice it enough. My FH is actually better at opening against heavy backspin. But I don't work on the BH which I should. It is time to do that. But I get the mechanics of using the torc from the rotation of the forearm.

In spite of working on my FH and not working on my BH my BH is still the one that wins me more points.

Always more work to do. But if, overall, my FH was as good as my BH, I would be a level better. This is the case even though there is some cool stuff I can do with my FH that I can't possible do with BH like the amount of hook or the comfort in counterlooping.

Still, I am a few levels lower than you in terms of skill sets.


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That makes sense - I liked the touch of your backhand but I didn't feel threatened by it.

I was backhand looping and counterlooping before I was forehand looping and counterlooping. I used to play choppers with my backhand - LOL. I get the skillset thing, but I recommend that you do that work that you are waiting on. It takes some people time to build up the elbow strength to get that crank moving. And the crank will win you more points than your forehand ever will. I posted 6 videos and all 6 videos had the crank. Okay, 5.5 - the Backhand topspin tutorial was a bit light on the cranking.
 
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That makes sense - I liked the touch of your backhand but I didn't feel threatened by it.

Yeah.

One of the I interesting things about my BH is that, for years, any time I worked on my FH, my BH just improved anyway. But I never worked on it.

At some point in July I realized that all of my BH shots were drives and that I wasn't really looping with it. I did a small amount of work to get the right contact to brush. And did not really think much about working on it. Then one day a friend who is one level higher than me but would be more if he actually practiced, said, "lets loop with backhand. You loop and I will block for about 5 min and then we switch. We will do it a few times."

I realized: "urm, I don't know how to do that!!!!!" He made me do it till I felt myself pulling past the ball. Instantly my ability to open vs backspin on the BH side got a bit better. A lot better than it was, really. But nowhere near as good as it should be.

But, in the last 5 years, that is the extent of how much I have worked on my BH.

In those match videos, I notice I drop my left arm when I hit BH. That shows the lack of training. I used to do that with FH and my left arm would just flop around. On FH my left arm is okay. Not how it use to be. Got to train that out of my BH.

The FH drop the wrist thing that we talked about, that is the last big (capital letters) thing I need to really fix on FH. The rest is small compared to that. But nonetheless present.

It is time to work on the BH because, even though it is better in a lot of ways than my FH, in other ways, it needs a bunch of work. [emoji2]

All that being said, I get what you mean about the CRANK. But I am not saying I have it. I just know what you mean.

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The answer is in the video.

I think there is a gerbil on a wheel and that is what is causing the mechanism to move! That explains how the same process is continually repeated with the same results. Ultimately the gerbil moves the crank.


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