Just saw the Chinese penholder (ranked like 500) destroy korean top50 player an jaehyun
https://youtu.be/g3czWRGcbXs
Not sure if that guy has the potential to be a top guy, probably not especially since he plays forehand pips apparently but he has a very strong RPB passive game. Good rpb blocks and also RPB punches and "active blocks" where he kinda does like a mini topspin with the wrist.
I think that is an important skill for RPB players, dang qiu improved that quite a bit too. RPB is good to open up and flip over table but many seem to struggle with passive game when BH is attacked.
I think if you have a good RPB passive game that makes it harder to attack you as a penholder so you can kinda wait for a chance to attack with FH without getting too weak.
I'm not an expert of course but to me that looks like an important feature for modern penholders.
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Yan Sheng is past his peak time. His FH pip suffers against top offenders like ML and WQC.
Still a good feature to have that good passive RPB game if you want to be a good penholder.
I tried out a jpen blade and really liked it but I want to play rpb so I got another sanwei m8 (which also is my primary cpen blade) for 15 bucks and cut of a piece of the handle and put on a piece of jpen cork.
Not sure if it will work but I give it a try.
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I tried out a jpen blade and really liked it but I want to play rpb so I got another sanwei m8 (which also is my primary cpen blade) for 15 bucks and cut of a piece of the handle and put on a piece of jpen cork.
Not sure if it will work but I give it a try.
Well done. This is what Galaxy is doing. Their latest penhold specifically designed for RPB has a resting block for index finger.
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Well done. This is what Galaxy is doing. Their latest penhold specifically designed for RPB has a resting block for index finger.
Thanks. I used some sand paper around a thick pen to sand the cork a little better fitting, now it feels really well in the hand.
I haven't played with it yet though I'm sure forehand will work fine but will be interesting whether I'm able to get the proper more open blade angle for rpb.
I don't think it will ever grow in Europe but I'm not sure there is a limitation if you start to exclusively learn rbp from the get go.
The saying always was rpb takes longer to make it good but maybe the issue was that xu xin and others started with tbp.
Felix lebrun had a pretty polished rpb at 14-15 and he plays exclusively rbp even on bh push.
I think a kid learning penhold should start learning flat hit, block and loop with rbp from day 1 and he will learn it very fast bc he doesn't need to worry to decide between tpb and rpb and then maybe after 2 years he can learn tpb as a variation.
That being said I think you are right about the lack of coaches in Europe making it quite unlikely it will catch on.
But with dang and felix I don't see any limitations compared to SH players, their BH is essentially the same
Also according to Nathanael Molins, Lebrun's Bros main coach, Félix is not a counter attacker, but a very offensive player using mainly very short tactics because as he said "he sees things way before his opponents, that's why he can stay close to the table without having to move that fast while still putting pressure on his opponents.". Félix's, as Qiu BH, are not using their RPB to stabilise the BH diagonal has Ma Long does, they use it as their main tool to put pressure and find ways to end the point as fast as possible, exactly as Wang Hao did. They would certainly benefit from a pure explosive FH penhold player, exactly what Chen Tianyuan is even if he has incorporated some RPB in his playing style since the last 2 years, or He Cheng Zhiwen who has already beaten Félix the past season:
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https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magos_Judit
The same thing has happened to the one-handed backhand in tennis... most pros use the two-handed backhand, but a few still use the one-hander. Therefore, new players still learn it.
Didn't stand much of a chance against Timo in that match and probably needs some technical refinement but is still young. Interesting he plays penhold without chinese parents. Does anyone know his story?
https://youtu.be/vxXZbmMNRvw
I hold it further out on the handle and use some grip tape on the top of the handle. This makes me hold it more naturally and also gives me the option to easily push, drive or smash with alot of success.
Haven't competed in many many years but it was an advantage for me beacuse I've never encountered another penhold player during my years in competition. One played Japanese penhold but he wasent that good.
I live in Sweden so I would love to see more people pick up penhold beacuse it's so much fun to play.
My BH has always been my strongest shot and also I like to push further away from the table which isn't normal either.
A hand injury makes it more difficult to play cpen but after seeing this wonder child Felix lebrun I'm wery much inspired to try it out once again.
Love his own style and he has a superb BH but falls short in some areas. He needs to put more focus on his FH and also finding out other short serves from BH that dosent leave him exposed.
But I'm for sure gonna follow this youngster and I truly hope that many more will follow playing the cpen.
And hopefully evolve into a more European style of playing.
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