Stiga Dynasty, Def Pro, Def Classic blades

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Did you ever get a confirmation from Stiga on what the top ply of the Classic Defensive is? I changed rubbers on it the other day and it splinters way more easily than other limba blades that I’ve owned (way too many to admit how many).

Would be nice to know as it’s quite unique. It would be great to know if there are any similar blades.
 
Did you ever get a confirmation from Stiga on what the top ply of the Classic Defensive is? I changed rubbers on it the other day and it splinters way more easily than other limba blades that I’ve owned (way too many to admit how many).

Would be nice to know as it’s quite unique. It would be great to know if there are any similar blades.
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Stiga Dynasty (Special Xu Xin Edition)
Weight: 89 grams
Plies: 7(Koto-Textreme+ - ayous-ayous)
Thickness: 5.79mm
Speed: Off to Off+Hardness: Medium Stiff

Mr. Yogi please give me some advice. I've been using viscaria for 5 years with Chinese rubber on forehand. I used to use h3 but now I use Battle 2. Yesterday I tried Dynasty Carbon XX blade with H3 Neo OS on forehand & Omega7 Pro on backhand.. and oh boii, this blade feels amazing.

Solid feeling for both backhand and forehand, waaaayyy more solid than viscaria.
Vibrate more compared to viscaria.
More woody feeling compared to viscaria, but the speed is similar to viscaria.
The direct feeling is much less than viscaria but the dwell time is a lot more, which sometimes I feel what viscaria is lacking.

Now I'm wavering. Should I sell my viscaria and switch to this blade? As an ITTF coach can you recommend why I should switch to this blade instead of viscaria? I mean, all advanced players are using viscaria. So viscaria should be the 'safer/way to go' blade, right? I like viscaria, its direct feeling, fine amount vibration, but the solid feeling from this blade is very tempting. I feel Viscaria's main problem is that it's not very solid (mine is 88g) and the dwell time is sometime too little for my level.

Oh lord help me, I'm infected by EJ disease.
 
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Just keep your Viscaria. You will never know.maybe one day you want to try that blade again. By all means, get the XX blade.

onononono, I cant afford 200 euro and not selling my viscaria :( (well technically I can, but my mind cant afford that).
Can you please give me technical reasons, pro and cons of this blade vs viscaria :(
 
Personally I feel it is faster than Viscaria and also has a harder feel. The only drawback i see is the price. The Textreme material feels like a super zlc.

Not harder, I think it's because it's more solid.
I also got the zlc like feeling, but maybe it's because of the blade makes the rubber bites more, and thus the kick like feeling like on zlc blade.

Btw, what's the weight do you recommend to get? On the store, the heaviest is 98g. I think heavier means more solid wood, but I'd like to hear your opinion.
Also is the headsize is butterfly standard or is it bigger? Thanks
 
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Dynasty Xu Xin is the best blade I've ever used. Lower speed than my previous blade Hurricane King 3, but feeling is incredible close to table. I have small hands so I use the Penace version which has smaller handle than regular
 
Stiga Dynasty (Special Xu Xin Edition)
Weight: 89 grams
Plies: 7(Koto-Textreme+ - ayous-ayous)
Thickness: 5.79mm
Speed: Off to Off+Hardness: Medium Stiff


Finally after a few months of waiting for this blade, I have it in my hands! So much hype has been going around with this blade because it started out as a blade named, “Coming Soon”. It was even colored purple or violet before which I heard Xu Xin did not like and so the color design was changed to brown. Stiga also introduced an upgraded version of Textreme which is Textreme+. The pricing is different in some areas. Although the regular and Xu Xin versions are priced 240 euros and 270 euros respectively, I know an area who sells the regular version at a much cheaper price. The Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin blade is a finely constructed blade. It has a slightly different look from the regular Dynasty because due to the logo that is designed by Xu Xin and his wife. Also, the Xu Xin version has a logo and autographed design on the blade surface. People have been speculating about its construction. Some think that it looks like limba for its outer plies but Stiga says it is koto. At first look, the colored outer plies can be mistaken as limba due to the lines of the wood but upon closer inspection, you can see the scales of the koto wood. You can check it in one of the pictures I posted above. Stiga also says that they designed the blade with a thicker core. The wood layers next to the core and even the top plies are very thinly constructed. I tried bouncing the ball on the bare blade and it has a semi high pitched sound. The bounce is fairly high. It has its bounciness but it is not high as compared to Carbonado 245 or 290. To be honest, the feeling of the blade is kinda unique or different. It does not feel like any other Stiga blade I have owned or used. It has stiffness but does not feel too stiff or too hard. The stiffness is between Viscaria and TBS blade. Anyway, I used Hurricane 2 boosted, Genesis 2 M max, a used Calibra LT Sound and an ESN rubber. The DCXX blade is a very bouncy blade but it does not feel as fast as hinoki pure carbon blades but rather in the level of carbon-arylate blades for its speed class. You can feel the power of the blade when you are hitting or drilling with it. It has a semi-long trajectory when you are looping with it. I would say the speed is more or less a notch faster than TBS and definitely faster than Viscaria. If I compare it to other Viscaria, it is definitely faster. One thing you can definitely feel about the blade is that it feels like an all wood blade. Stiga has produced blades that have woody feel but this has a new level of woody feel. The textreme+ material is so thin you almost cannot feel it that it is there, which for me, is a good thing because the feedback on the hand is really good. The sweetspot is quite big. This is probably due to the improved textreme+ material. I bounced the ball on the blade and sweetspot seem to be up to 1 inch before the edge of the blade approximately. I did not get any bad vibrations and my hand had not felt any whether I was hitting the ball or looping it. You can feel the power of your shots. I was drilling my loops with it and the arc is a semi-long. The Hurricane 3 gave me a bit of adjustment because the arc for it was too low. Maybe it was the boosting that I added to the rubber but the Hurricane 3 was hitting the net and I had to adjust a little bit. I changed my forehand rubber with the Genesis 2 M and it was really good. The combination suited really well because it was very easy looping or driving with it. With the Hurricane 3, the spin was really good and the dwell was there but when I was hitting the ball and compressing the sponge, the arc was very low. This can be overcome by just adjusting to it or probably the rubber was over boosted. With the Genesis 2 M, it made no adjustments. The Genesis 2 M is a Chinese rubber but it felt like I was using an ESN rubber. The arc was medium and I had no difficulty adjusting to the arc. With the ESN rubber and the Calibra LT Sound, attacking with the DCXX blade is very easy. The blade can compete in terms of power and speed on any distance from the table. The DCXX is a blade where the performance is a sum of all its parts. Since this is a blade that has an all-wood feel, you can have a very good control with it even with fast shots. With its sufficient power, you will not ask for more even if you are far from the table. This is a do all blade. It acts as if it is an off+ blade but the control is in the level of off- blades. Even with delicate and short shots like drop shots or flicks, no adjustments for me were really made. Anyway, the blade pairs and works well with almost all kinds of rubbers. For the Chinese rubber, I think I have I have to use another Hurricane 3 with just to make sure that the one I used was the problem. It does favor hard rubbers or medium hard rubbers. With the Genesis 2 M, no problem using with and in fact I love the Genesis 2 M with it. The blade has enough flex and because of its flex I would suggest not to use rubbers that are too soft. For you to maximize the blade, I think you should not go belowe medium soft rubbers for the rubber hardness. It is a very tamed blade. It may be fast but control is really good coupled with an awesome unique feel. Since this is not too fast for most people, I can safely say that even intermediate level players can use this provided that they have slower or thinner rubbers paired with the Dynasty Carbon blade.
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Stiga Def Pro
Weight: 81 grams
Thickness: 5.15mm
Plies: 7 (Colored limba or Walnut?? - textreme carbon - ayous -ayous)
Hardness: Medium
Speed: ALL+


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Stiga Def Classic
Weight: 73 grams
Thickness: 5.2mmPlies: 5 (limba -ayous - ayous)
Hardness: Medium soft
Speed: Def+ to All-

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The Stiga Defensive and Defensive pro are two of the defensive blades from Stiga that has introduced recently and these 2 blades are a first after probably 10 years?? of Stiga not releasing any defensive blades. I think Stiga has focused more on all around to offensive blades. It is only now that they produced these 2 blades for the public to enjoy and use. I have my fair share of defensive blades but only used it as a tool for coaching players on how to deal and play against them. I can only chop mostly using my forehand and not much for the backhand consistently. I can chop 2-3 topspin balls away from from the table a bit more because the DP has more bounce and power.
I will just talk about the 2 blades’ capabilities in general. If you are a beginner chopper, get the Defensive Classic because it is very controllable and gives you enough space for errors especially on defensive chops. Blocking or chop blocking are already very easy with this blade and the DC is more of a blade that will be a good tool to develop chopping skills. If you are a pure blocker with either medium or long pips on either side then this will work too. It excels also in chop blocking or slicing against topspin above the table. In my opinion you would need a Long pimple that has at least 0.6mm with the DC since it would be too slow far from the table. The Def Pro on the other hand is for a skilled chopper because it gives you enough power for faster shots and also when I asked somebody who is a skilled chopper, I could see the blade chopping very heavy underspin balls with a little more speed unlike the DC blade where the chops are slow. You can chop with OX Lp rubbers on the DP but if you are skilled enough using the one with .5 or .6mm sponge is also great away from the table. I guess for polyballs and with higher level players, the DP is the one that I can really recommend. When I was looping with the DP it has good speed as if I am looping using an Offensive Classic blade. With the Def Classic, the ball was kinda slow even if you loop the ball on the rise. One thing the DC excels in is the touch and control of delicate drop shots and
It seems like I have mixed information
.some says it is slower than the viscaria. And this says,.it is faster..
So, on same rubbers, which is more control? More spinny serve,.heavy push and slow spinny loops?
 
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It seems like I have mixed information
.some says it is slower than the viscaria. And this says,.it is faster..
So, on same rubbers, which is more control? More spinny serve,.heavy push and slow spinny loops?
I felt like viscaria has a higher basic speed but dynasty hits hard on strong shots. Dynasty felt grippier to me with easier short game
 
I felt like viscaria has a higher basic speed but dynasty hits hard on strong shots. Dynasty felt grippier to me with easier short game
I am afraid to buy the dynasty because I am using the cybershape carbon now and I cant really feel the dwell time. I cant produce massive spin. And my opponent is saying that it was purely speed and not massive spin. And because of it, I want to change to VIs or dynasty (seen a 2nd hand) to have more quality spin. And afraid because they are both have the textreme.

If dynasty seems grippier and good short game, can produce massive spin on services, push return, slow spinny loop against backspin, compared to viscaria. I will go for dynasty

Will you confirm it?
 
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