Why did Joo Se-Hyuk barely forehand-chop in his match against Ma Lin in 2003?

[Jaydynite]

Why did Joo Se-Hyuk barely forehand-chop in his match against Ma Lin in 2003?

Did he used to play like this? Why did he change from this to chopping with his forehand often?

 

[Lowday20298]

I don't know back then, but later he used tenergy 64.

Back then he most likely used butterfly bryce, that was the main rubber from butterfly back then. Decent rubber, but nothing special nowadays.

 

[Chang]

Why did Joo Se-Hyuk barely forehand-chop in his match against Ma Lin in 2003?

Did he used to play like this? Why did he change from this to chopping with his forehand often?

Just my initial thought, but Ma Lin was THE expert against choppers. He had a really hard forhand topspin and was really fast. I guess he wouldn´t have much problem with soft rubber chop either. On the other hand, Joo had also excellent forhand attack. By knowing this, Joo would need to attack Ma Lin, rather then chop everything. He needed to add fast attack, to change the rhythm and don´t give Ma Lin chance to make final attack.

 

[Chang]

I don't know back then, but later he used tenergy 64.

Back then he most likely used butterfly bryce, that was the main rubber from butterfly back then. Decent rubber, but nothing special nowadays.

Never heard about him using Bryce, but might be possible. But he also used Tackfire.

 

[Lowday20298]

Never heard about him using Bryce, but might be possible. But he also used Tackfire.

Maybe he could've used tackiness chop? I just assumed he used the bryce because everyone used it when it was the prime rubber, similar to the tenergy and dignics series

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Maybe he could've used tackiness chop? I just assumed he used the bryce because everyone used it when it was the prime rubber, similar to the tenergy and dignics series

It was definitely Tackifire Drive

 

[blahness]

You cannot give Ma Lin too many opportunities. The counterloop is essential to cut off one whole big angle option for Ma Lin so that he's forced to loop to the nasty LP BH chop which is simply loaded with spin and extremely hard to control for Ma Lin. Joo was smart to use these tactics.

 

[Lowday20298]

It was definitely Tackifire Drive

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Whose racket is this?

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Whose racket is this?

It was JSH setup. The same site has a lot of professionals setups like KLH, Ma Lin and Wang Hao

Edit: source- https://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt

 

[Lowday20298]

Ok thanks, I'll check it out, sounds like a pretty cool site

 

[pingpongpaddy]

Why did Joo Se-Hyuk barely forehand-chop in his match against Ma Lin in 2003?

Did he used to play like this? Why did he change from this to chopping with his forehand often?

I think you have to realise that a chopper playing against Ma Lin can't really stop ma Lin if he chooses to drive into the LP. When Ma Lin is topspinning into the pips he can control the amount of spin and speed, but in spite of this theoretical advantage he is not able to penetrate JSH's defence easily, with either power or variation.
However, we can see that JSH does use forehand backspin often when pushing over the table, but away from the table he mixed fh junky low pace soft lifts with tremendous FH counters, and above all he showed superhuman fitness to be able to extend the rallies to matter where Ma Lin sent the ball. I feel that for a 3rd ball specialist like MA Lin this must have a challenge that he must have found difficult. Maybe JSH felt that using his fh chop might not be effective against Ma Lin's varied spin.
I don't know how ML played JSH in subsequent matches but would expect him to demonstrate dealing with that soft ball stuff more severely. Easier said than done
The match is like lifetime masterpiece for JSH