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that's why when Xu Xin vs Timo, the ref called a fault for Xu giving one point to Timo, still Xu is too good for everyone
When Xu Xin vs Timo Boll in the final. The audience can not see the ball, but Timo Boll has full perspective, I think
Everyone throws it back a little. And as long as you throw it up from your palm, its really hard to get any spin.
xu throws back sooo obviuos and very very often. ai fukuhara throws the ball 1 meter upward in absolutelly verticall direction..so does vladi samsonov
in my club there are few 50+ years old guys who abuse that rule every time they serve. its stupid when a better player than you acts like a cheater
p.s. i think that when you throw the ball back its easier to produce spinny serve than the case you hit free falling ball
xu throws back sooo obviuos and very very often. ai fukuhara throws the ball 1 meter upward in absolutelly verticall direction..so does vladi samsonov
in my club there are few 50+ years old guys who abuse that rule every time they serve. its stupid when a better player than you acts like a cheater
p.s. i think that when you throw the ball back its easier to produce spinny serve than the case you hit free falling ball
My opinion: I think timo boll can see the service perfectly, but ma long cant because he is right handed. But in both situations its illegal. From the moment the ball is hidden, its illegal. This is for almost every chinese player btw. Look at wang liqin his serve. He hides the ball with his left arm. Ma lin probably doesnt throw the ball high enough.
The only 2 players that serve legal are timo boll and samsonov. They throw the ball enough, and they hit the ball in front of their body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I__jJDdECZs
you should watch this video. It's a good camera angle. Wang Liqin's serve isn't even close to illegal in my opinion
Scylla, I'm surprised you say that, because I think most would agree that you're the most intelligent poster on here. However, the ball travels about 2 feet backward, and Xu Xin's shoulder completely obstructs the view of the receiver. Timo is a great serve returner, and if he could see the contact point of this serve, it is not a difficult one to return. Timo isn't one to complain, and Ma Long couldn't call illegal serves on another Chinese player. I think all the professional players should be held to the highest standard of the rules.
I think the umpires didn't have the spine to call it on the important points, and that is why he was not called. This is the motion where he serves from at the crucial points of the match, and is definitely illegal. All of his other serves are legal however.