Japan National Championships 2017

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

what was the last time we saw a defender winning a world title ?

 

[NextLevel]

How come you think so? Isn't JSH or just today Ruwen Filus proving you wrong then?

Many defenders don't consider Filus a defender - he is an attacker who sometimes chops on backhand and uses pips in their view. And Joo has a level limitation - his teammates usually beat him easily.

 

[NextLevel]

Mizutani was down 0-2 to Hirano but seems to be coming back...

 

[Suga D]

what was the last time we saw a defender winning a world title ?

Good point. But still every once in a while a good defender manages to beat some top players. When i look at guys like Wang Xi or Gionis they manage to have some good statistics in the TTBL although they certainly wouldn't play so succesful in CTTSL.

Many defenders don't consider Filus a defender - he is an attacker who sometimes chops on backhand and uses pips in their view. And Joo has a level limitation - his teammates usually beat him easily.

I have to agree, but then again I thought modern defense was played that way. Gionis or Wang Xi also rarely chop from the FH side and are also quite good at looping even though i have to admit that their styles are totally different to Filus' style.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

That's the problem. Every once in a while a top defender beats a good player but true top players (almost) never lose a top defender

JOO was the exception at his peak. In women's it's a bit less true. Han Ying or Wu Yang can beat any non Chinese player, but they are both Chinese...

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Mizutani adjusted to Hirano serves and dominated the short game

 

[ttpshot]

Yoshimura beating Yoshida to advance to the finals.
It was 4 years ago when Mizutani was beaten by older Yoshimura. We'll see what happens!

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Incredible to see Yoshida making 2 serves miss at 5-7 in the decider... He shot himself in the foot

 

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Incredible to see Yoshida making 2 serves miss at 5-7 in the decider... He shot himself in the foot

He's been missing serves forever and I guess he's too old to correct it now.

 

[NextLevel]

Hirano up 3-1, 8-2 or something like that and ends up losing 9-11 in that game. Will Ishikawa come back?

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

I think not....

 

[NextLevel]

I think not....

Hirano win 11-6 in the 6th. Ishikawa now has homework!

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Hirano trains in China. That's what it takes to win

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

It's all over. Mizutani won as expected. He was never in real danger and did not need to produce his best to win against the underdog who put up a decent fight taking one game and deucing in the 4th..

 

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Hirano's shots were so powerful today. That's what happens when you lift barbels instead of spending time on ladders and core stability!

 

[MegaZZ]

Anyone who would be able to upload the All Japan Championships 2017 men and women semi final and final matches to Youtube? Much appreciated, unfortunately missed the matches today due to work and it's not so easy to find these matches on Japanese websites

 

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Hashimoto's equipment is Goriki super cut with Harricane neo3 and DO knuckle on BH by the way. Very unique.

 

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JNT for this year's WTTC have been announced:

MS
Mizutani Niwa Matsudaira Muranatsu Harimoto

WS
Ishikawa Ito Kato Hirano Sato

MD
Oshima/Morozono
Niwa/Yoshimura

WD
Ishikawa/Hirano
Hayata/Ito

XD
Yoshimura/Ishikawa
Tazoe/Maeda

 

[Filip]

No Yoshimura or Oshima? I would throw Niwa out I think... for 2 years his results are disappointing, but he keeps on being in the top 20, I don't know how, every tournament he loses to someone ranked way below him and never wins someone above him. He needs a wake up call

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

No Yoshimura or Oshima? I would throw Niwa out I think... for 2 years his results are disappointing, but he keeps on being in the top 20, I don't know how, every tournament he loses to someone ranked way below him and never wins someone above him. He needs a wake up call

I agree they should kick Niwa. His loss to Ueda in this championship was a disgrace

unfortunately they said that the 2 best ranked players would be part of the team, so Niwa was part of it.

Niwa had a miraculous win against WONG Chuting in the Olympics in singles and that kind of saved him.

Yoshimura (Masaharu) and Oshima have disappointed a lot recently. They had very bad results recently especially after the Olympics.

I'm surprised Muramatsu is part of the team, given the limitations of his defensive style. I don't think he can get better results than he does now.
For Women's, i agree with Sato being chosen. She is really good. Defensive style works better for Women's as the topspin attacks are less powerful. Sato is very good at counterattack as well. Her footwork is impressive and her fighting spirit excellent.