Bty Petr Korbel (Hungary) vs Tibhar Stratus Power Wood

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I am using Korbel and probably, If I dont want to switch to a carbon blade in the future, I will not change it.

I was using Samsonov Alpha (very good blade also) before, and I am pretty glad that I changed it. It's like "Do it all" blade, great feeling and speed.

However, most people say that the handle is very thin, so it is annoying for lot of people. If you have an opportunity to test it before its better.
 
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I am using Korbel and probably, If I dont want to switch to a carbon blade in the future, I will not change it.

I was using Samsonov Alpha (very good blade also) before, and I am pretty glad that I changed it. It's like "Do it all" blade, great feeling and speed.
I like the wsc but the problem is the feeling, I'm not complaining about the speed, just the feeling, I think is because the carbon

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If you are going to use an oversize blade and concerned about weight, just avoid max sponge.
I'm not, but I don't think get a 100 grs either blade, hehehe, I think I can use periodically a 88-95 grs without trouble, i will get a Petr Korbel with 88 grs I think, because is close to 90 and away from 85 grs

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There are some difference between 88 and 89 grs?

It is true. 88 grams should be okay.

But this is how this works:

88 grams is a tiny bit better than 87 grams.
87 grams is a tiny bit better than 86 grams.

90 grams is a tiny bit better than 89 grams.
91 grams is a tiny bit better than 90 grams.

At a certain point the blade is legitimately too heavy for you and it slows down your acceleration, top speed, whip and reset. But from the standpoint of the wood, a blade that is made with the same wood plies, with the same ply thicknesses and the same blade dimensions, when one is heavier, the denser wood will have better playing characteristics. It will have better feel, better pace, more bite for spin.

And when it becomes most noticeable is when you compare a blade that is say 92 grams with one that is 84 grams. But when there are two blades that are otherwise exactly the same, and one has wood that is more dense and therefore weighs more, it almost always feels better on contact.

So the real job would be to find a blade that is not too heavy for you to handle but is about as heavy as it could be while you can still manage the weight.



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I got the power wood on Carl's suggestion, and I love it. I really like the limba soft feel in the short game and i like the way it feels when looping aswell control is high and it seems very versatile. both of mine are 90 g. A side note it's just great for the money. I have three different limba limba blades and I like them all. Speed ranging from all, all+, to off-. Donic Appleglen all play, waldner v1 all wood and power wood. They all loop well but the power wood is also pretty good when hitting has a little extra kick without losing control. I haven't played the Korbel it's limba limba too not sure if it has the same center or not but i know it's very popular I'm sure it's good aswell. Not making a clam that power wood is the best but it's a good blade. Btw I have played rising dragon, h8, and h3 neo on the forehand and I felt all pared well.


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I got the power wood on Carl's suggestion, and I love it. I really like the limba soft feel in the short game and i like the way it feels when looping aswell control is high and it seems very versatile. both of mine are 90 g. A side note it's just great for the money. I have three different limba limba blades and I like them all. Speed ranging from all, all+, to off-. Donic Appleglen all play, waldner v1 all wood and power wood. They all loop well but the power wood is also pretty good when hitting has a little extra kick without losing control. I haven't played the Korbel it's limba limba too not sure if it has the same center or not but i know it's very popular I'm sure it's good aswell. Not making a clam that power wood is the best but it's a good blade. Btw I have played rising dragon, h8, and h3 neo on the forehand and I felt all pared well.


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The question is, Korbel is better than power wood about feeling, control and consistency? Because Bty is always lovable for whole world but that is subjective, then I just wanted to ask, if is really better, considering the price
 
if you want good feel here are the blades i can recommend that are not heavy:
1. yinhe earth 4 = this is a copy of the nittaku violin and it has good feel and looping capability. it is also cheaper.
2. yinhe earth 3 = it has limba outer plies and a bit slow like a nexy peter pan.
3. red+black flow = this is a not so famous blade b ut the quality is very high and either equal or better than an osp blade. it loops really well and has good feel. it is rated all+ but it is off- when i tried it.
 
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Don't over analyze. Just get one of the two initial blades and start training. Either one is a very good blade, the rest is up to you.
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if you want good feel here are the blades i can recommend that are not heavy:
1. yinhe earth 4 = this is a copy of the nittaku violin and it has good feel and looping capability. it is also cheaper.
2. yinhe earth 3 = it has limba outer plies and a bit slow like a nexy peter pan.
3. red+black flow = this is a not so famous blade b ut the quality is very high and either equal or better than an osp blade. it loops really well and has good feel. it is rated all+ but it is off- when i tried it.
Thanks for your advice, I'll seek them

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Korbel has a much better build quality than the SPW. The blades are not that similar - Korbel is thinner and flexier and to me a faster looping blade, though I have seen lots of disagreements on the internet - my Korbels are 96 and 98g though. SPW has thicker and has a more solid approach to things and would probably be the preferred one if you used carbon before using it - mine were 88g. Easier to find a lighter SPW than a lighter Korbel these days, I think. Maybe the weight explain my experience.

I prefer the balance of the Korbel but this is a personal opinion thing. Both are good blades but play differently enough that I would recommend you test before you buy. But the Korbel is better built and more durable.
 
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The question is, Korbel is better than power wood about feeling, control and consistency? Because Bty is always lovable for whole world but that is subjective, then I just wanted to ask, if is really better, considering the price

No. That is actually not the question. The question may be: "which one will you like more?" But that is not about better and worse. And sometimes that is about your headspace, or how much the allure of one brand or another has captured your desire and caused your inner EJ virus to go haywire. And rest assured, you do have a bad case of be EJ virus. There is no doubt based on the number of posts in different threads you have made on this same subject.

To add to the information I gave about how the same kind of wood is different and denser wood generally feels better, here is more info:

Since the Korbel and the Power Wood are made with the exact same plies, they will feel similar in many ways. The thickness of the plies is slightly different and the gluing process is slightly different, and the way the wood is treated before the plies are laminated is slightly different. So they won't feel the same. Also, since trees are living and no two cuts of wood are the same and even the same cut from different parts of the same tree sometimes can have slightly different playing characteristics, NO TWO Korbels will play exactly the same. No two Power Woods will play exactly the same.

If you had 10 Korbels and 10 Power Woods, all the same weight, the ideal weight for you, some of the Korbels would feel a little better than others. Some of the Power Woods would feel a little better than others. The Korbels that felt the best would be slightly different than the Power Woods that felt the best. But they would be equally bestest! or do I mean besterer?

Let me say that in a slightly different way: if you had a really nice Korbel and an equally nice Power Wood, it would simply come down to your own personal preference which one you like more. Because they are both equally good!

What would really determine which one you liked more?

1) The handle, how it fits in your hand
2) The wings, how they feel to your hand
3) The small distinctive differences between Korbel ball feel and Power Wood ball feel: Korbel: softer; Power Wood: crisper

But the only way for you to know which one you like more would be to play with a good one of each for about 2 weeks to a month each. Without that, you can't really know. It would be even better if you did that test without knowing which was which so your preconceived opinions did not color your judgement.

However, that kind of test is probably not going to happen. So it is good for you to know that they are both equally besterer, or, if you would rather proper English: they are both equally excellent.

Choose one and be done with it. You are spending too much time on the subject for your own mental well being. Whichever one you choose will be the best one, once you groove your game with it for a few months. There is little doubt in my mind about that.

Rest assured, whichever one you choose is an excellent blade. If you find you can't break down and choose for yourself, here is what to do:

1) Find someone particularly bad at darts.
2) Make two cue cards. One that says KORBEL, one that says POWER WOOD.
3) Put them on a dart board.
4) Blindfold the person who will be your dart hurler.
5) Spin them around until they are dizzy and disoriented.
6) Drugs or alcohol may also help this process.
7) Have the person throw until a dart lands on one of the cue cards.
8) Get that blade and know that fate has chosen for you.
9) PLAY WITH THE BLADE and enjoy the choice the fates have decreed.

Don't worry so much about the specifics of equipment. It is not as important as you are thinking. And you have already made an excellent choice by narrowing things down to these two blades.




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Yeah. NextLevel's point about solidity, most all of Butterfly's blades are very durable. Other brands are not usually as durable. But from a playing characteristic side of things it really comes down to personal preference.


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No. That is actually not the question. The question may be: "which one will you like more?" But that is not about better and worse. And sometimes that is about your headspace, or how much the allure of one brand or another has captured your desire and caused your inner EJ virus to go haywire. And rest assured, you do have a bad case of be EJ virus. There is no doubt based on the number of posts in different threads you have made on this same subject.

Ive just checked your posting history and iveseen you play now. Id take a step back from the equipment questions if it is about improving. If you want to try things you are fine but you should stay with slower equipment and easy to use rubbers for development sake. You are at a beginner stage and going pretty crazy about equipment which will not help you getting better at all.
 
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Ive just checked your posting history and iveseen you play now. Id take a step back from the equipment questions if it is about improving. If you want to try things you are fine but you should stay with slower equipment and easy to use rubbers for development sake. You are at a beginner stage and going pretty crazy about equipment which will not help you getting better at all.

I agree but you are really replying to Dominus. Carl is definitely not a beginner :D.
 
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Ive just checked your posting history and iveseen you play now. Id take a step back from the equipment questions if it is about improving. If you want to try things you are fine but you should stay with slower equipment and easy to use rubbers for development sake. You are at a beginner stage and going pretty crazy about equipment which will not help you getting better at all.

I agree but you are really replying to Dominus. Carl is definitely not a beginner :D.

Yeah. This did make me laugh, realizing he quoted me but was addressing dominus. However, the message is an important one. And the post got me to look at a little bit of footage of dominus and I, MOST DEFINITELY agree with QWERTY Spin.

dominus, you are still aiming too high with your blade selection. Here are a few examples of blades you should be selecting from.

1) Yasaka Sweden Extra
2) Stiga Allround Evolution
3) Butterfly Primorac Off-

If you want more I could list more. But those would be better for helping you develop skills and learn how to hold the ball on the blade face for longer to get more spin.

The blades you are looking at are very good. You could get away with using them. But, based on watching a little footage, the blades I listed would actually help you improve a decent amount faster than the Korbel or Power Wood which are faster 5 ply blades.

The blades I listed would just drop you down a half notch from Off speed rating to All+/Off- speed rating. So they are a small notch down in speed but will help you develop technique a decent amount more easily.


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Yeah. This did make me laugh, realizing he quoted me but was addressing dominus. However, the message is an important one. And the post got me to look at a little bit of footage of dominus and I, MOST DEFINITELY agree with QWERTY Spin.

dominus, you are still aiming too high with your blade selection. Here are a few examples of blades you should be selecting from.

1) Yasaka Sweden Extra
2) Stiga Allround Evolution
3) Butterfly Primorac Off-

If you want more I could list more. But those would be better for helping you develop skills and learn how to hold the ball on the blade face for longer to get more spin.

The blades you are looking at are very good. You could get away with using them. But, based on watching a little footage, the blades I listed would actually help you improve a decent amount faster than the Korbel or Power Wood which are faster 5 ply blades.

The blades I listed would just drop you down a half notch from Off speed rating to All+/Off- speed rating. So they are a small notch down in speed but will help you develop technique a decent amount more easily.


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I've got a Joola Rossi All-round for development, and I will repeat, the new blade is due my birthday, that not means when the blade is in my hands I'll play with it, I'm using also a donic wsc.
Joola is awesome! Paired with two Chinese rubbers, I mean, they're not spinny too much but they give me a great control (lkt pro xp & friendship).
Joola feels hollow, I'm not upset by that, then is noisy and I can feel the ball sink into the rubber, then I can discern easily when I'm smashing or I'm looping, so is a very good beginner blade.
Donic is awesome too! It doesn't feel hollow at all, I'm currently knowing the blade so I'm starting to difference between I'm smashing and looping it's quite difficult but it's just thing to give time to time, is faster than Joola and the sweet spot is bigger, of course is faster and massive spinner (Yasaka Rakza 7 & tibhar evolution mx-p), but I'm getting used.
Any blade presents to me a great issue, both are different a lot but, I can deal with them. Joola is more for passive and donic for active.
The Petr Korbel is a gift that I want to do it myself before stay out of stock, because my birthday is today, then when I want to get a Korbel, will be much more expensive. Then I prefer to save it. And the next year or may be 2 years I'll be using and not need to start to bothering all of you :V.
By the way, I really appreciate your helping. Seriously.
 
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Okay, then, for your birthday you should get yourself the Korbel and not think about the Power Wood, because if what you want is the Korbel, that is what you should get.

But you should also get yourself the Primorac Off- for your birthday and use that, and only that for the next year or two. It will set you up to be ready for the Korbel because the two blades are cousins. Primorac has a smaller head size but the same plies. And the Primorac is 5.7mm thick and the Korbel is 6.0mm thick.

So, if what you want is the Korbel for the future, get it, but get the Primorac Off- for now. The Primorac will be better for you game and your development than either of the blades you have even though they are both okay as blades. But the description of how you have a harder time feeling what kind of contact you make and whether you spin the ball or not when you are using the Donic Waldner Senso Carbon is the exact reason why developing players are better off with the kind of all wood blade that the Primorac is. The ability to feel more details on contact will help your technique improve faster.
 
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