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    Sorry for the off topic but, which are the best chinese TT forum?

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    #42
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    Hello Giangt,

    FZD is using Viscaria with STIGA Handle, but these two pictures are not his blade.
    This blade is "made" by one of FZD fans in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxng
    Hello Giangt,

    FZD is using Viscaria with STIGA Handle, but these two pictures are not his blade.
    This blade is "made" by one of FZD fans in China.
    Do you know where he got the lens from?

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    Now I must admit, I really don't understand this kind of thing.

    I doubt FZD is making any more from Stiga than he would in the long run from Butterfly. He is using Butterfly rubber on his backhand too. By using Stiga he seems to be ensuring that he will not be using anything from his sponsor except for their money.
    But why do you think that it is up to FZD to choose the sponsor? Something tells me that in countries like China, senior team management are in charge of subtle political issues like sponsorship of a CNT level player, but not players themself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilia Minkin
    But why do you think that it is up to FZD to choose the sponsor? Something tells that in countries like China, senior team management are in charge of subtle political issues like sponsorship of a CNT level player, but not players themself.
    You may be right. I am not sure how things really work. But even if other people from the CNT are deciding something like that, to me, it looks pretty unintelligent and unprofessional to have a guy playing with a Butterfly racket with a Stiga handle and to have Stiga saying he is playing with rubbers and a blade that he is not using. I am not sure anyone looks good as a result of it. And if there is any political reasoning behind messing with Stiga, Butterfly and FZD all at the same time, and making all of them look bad, then I can't figure out what that might be. I would say, regardless of who made the decision, it shows a little bit of a lack of foresight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    And if there is any political reasoning behind messing with Stiga, Butterfly and FZD all at the same time, and making all of them look bad, then I can't figure out what that might be. I would say, regardless of who made the decision, it shows a little bit of a lack of foresight.
    Politics is often irrational. And in Southeast Asia it has its own flavour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilia Minkin
    Politics is often irrational. And in Southeast Asia it has its own flavour
    I do think you have a point. FZD was only 16 when he was sponsored by Stiga. Probably someone else made that decision for him. How strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownCarl
    Now I must admit, I really don't understand this kind of thing.

    I doubt FZD is making any more from Stiga than he would in the long run from Butterfly. He is using Butterfly rubber on his backhand too. By using Stiga he seems to be ensuring that he will not be using anything from his sponsor except for their money.

    Now, I do understand why Wang Liqin used a Stiga Clipper with a DHS handle (National Pride and promotion of a good company from China). But why would FZD use Stiga as a sponsor, not use their blades, not use their rubbers and ensure that he is deceiving his fans when he does advertisements that say he is using a blade he definitely is not using?

    He seems to be hurting his own image and the trust of his fans by doing this. And I can't imagine he is gaining more than he would if he took sponsorship from a company whose products he actually uses.

    But I also can't fathom why ZJK has so many blades with his name on it and doesn't use any of them. Why wouldn't he get Butterfly to just make him exactly what he wants?

    Why wouldn't FZD get Stiga to make him exactly what he wants?

    To me this is both foolishness and a mystery.


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    Hi

    does someone know how much mm Ma Long, Zhang Jike and Fan Zhendong are using on their Hurricane 3 ?
    And same for the Tenergy 05 of Xu Xin and Fan Zhendong please.

    Thanks

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    I see Dima not using the Clipper like blade and Jun went back again to his old design MJ vs CCY in Austrian Open. Players still adjusting their equipment with new balls so it seems.

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    Jun Mizutani played with T80 on his FH at the Austrian Open ?
    A pic from his twitter he has just posted:

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    Jun Mizutani played with T80 on his FH at the Austrian Open ?
    A pic from his twitter he has just posted:

    Nice find! What is Jun Mizutani's twitter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    Nice find! What is Jun Mizutani's twitter?
    It's just @Mizutani__Jun --> https://twitter.com/Mizutani__Jun
    In the post, It seems that he thanks his fans, Kenji (Matsudaira?) for being his practise partner and... his racket which was worn out but last till the end .
    I don't know if his super duper level during the Austrian Open was partly due to his "new combo" (he used the old JM ZLC too) but I hope he can maintain it. It will be a treat for us spectators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John18
    It's just @Mizutani__Jun --> https://twitter.com/Mizutani__Jun
    In the post, It seems that he thanks his fans, Kenji (Matsudaira?) for being his practise partner and... his racket which was worn out but last till the end .
    I don't know if his super duper level during the Austrian Open was partly due to his "new combo" (he used the old JM ZLC too) but I hope he can maintain it. It will be a treat for us spectators.
    Great find, I had no idea Jun was on Twitter! Twitter must be popular in Japan! And yh I hope he can to, makes events so much more interesting and exciting to watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan
    Great find, I had no idea Jun was on Twitter! Twitter must be popular in Japan! And yh I hope he can to, makes events so much more interesting and exciting to watch!
    Yeah, unlike CNT, almost all the players of JNT are on twitter. I even saw a retweet of a TTD tweet by a japanese player. I think it was Miyu Kato so maybe she is a follower of TTD on twitter.
    Maybe a lead for a future interview or "ask your questions" even if the language barrier may make it difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John18
    Yeah, unlike CNT, almost all the players of JNT are on twitter. I even saw a retweet of a TTD tweet by a japanese player. I think it was Miyu Kato so maybe she is a follower of TTD on twitter.
    Maybe a lead for a future interview or "ask your questions" even if the language barrier may make it difficult.
    Wow that is really cool! We definitely could definitely try this, I would love to get the Japanese on board

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    Why is he sponsored by stiga but not using stiga equipment. That is a misconception.

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    Greetings,

    A database of blades, including side views, would enable anyone to compare a player's blade and identify what blade they're actually using. The plies would give the definitive answer - regardless of the handle.

    The conundrum about sponsorship is certainly perplexing.

    Perhaps clothing is the main aspect for some, whilst the manufacturers may have a "gentleman's agreement" on equipment: whoever's handle (brand/logo) is on the blade gets the PR benefit!? It's also possible that a player may be more comfortable with a particular handle rather than the one that comes on the blade - like handguns, no matter how well engineered are the internals, if the grip isn't right for you...

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