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      Jun Mizutani Ghost Serve

      Okay, so I'm sure everyone has seen the serve of Ma Lin that has taken youtube by storm. If you haven't seen Ma Lin's Ghost serve click the link here

      Well below is Jun Mizutani's version of the GHOST serve with demonstration!





      You can see as Jun Mizutani strikes the ball, the spin is bringing the ball back to the net at a quick speed! If you watch the video below it demonstrates how this is done. If there are any translators to translate the video to English for us. That would be amazing!


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      Awesome! Cannot belive the amount of backspin. Its interesting because when you see the slow mo it does not look like the ball spins that much

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      The Slow mo actually slows it down so much that you can see the ball spinning. It's actually moving quite fast because typically you will shoot in 60 frames per second or 120 frames per second either way to see it turn that many revolutions per second is impressive. That means in the 2 seconds it takes to get to your side of the table the ball has probably already completed a dozen revolutions.

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      This service from Jun analyzed shows how complicated the game is on that level. That serve where he can make the ball go two ways from the second bounce must be so incredibly hard to read. So much accuracy on it as well. This clearly shows the difference between world class and sub top I think.

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      Lovin the high speed cam !
      Awesomeness !

      Oh and the lovely Japanese presentation too
      Anyone can translate this ? Too precious to be missed and understood.
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      4 things important to get the ball to bounce back to net.

      1) impact the ball at the BOTTOM, maybe even a tad in front of bottom.
      2) impact the ball higher than net hight
      3) impact the ball with racket speed generated by loose arm/wrist, some help from body, and wrist snap. It's all about timing/acelleration.
      4) Make 1st bounce 2/3 the way to net for extreme short, closer to 1/2 for ghost serve that bounces deeper and still comes back.

      Controlling the height over net is tricky with this serve and not as high% for even a pro, so you don't see these extreme short serves at the pro level, too much chance to get flip killed. Still, it is Uber Cool to show this serve off. Still good to practice it as a way to develop impact timing and for developing sever chop when you need it.
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      And the quality is avalaible on 1280x1080p !
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      Oh and thank you sir Der_Echte for the explanation

      Dan, why can't I edit my post ?

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      Nice to be able to see such detail on the technique. And to me, in slow motion, it does look like the ball is going fast. It takes many rotations before it gets to the net. It is definitely spinning faster than it is going forward.
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      So many peole try this serve and fail. Usually it is from not striking the ball at the bottom, often not enough acelleration. A lot of newbies seem to raise their arm during the backswing and tilt their blade, so at impact, the swing is never forward horizontal and contact is nowhere near the bottom. It feels weird at first, but even with 5 minutes a day practice know the important points, one can improve a TON in serving, not just this serve. Practicing this match worthless serve is profit, because it builds the impact timing and contact point control that is needed to apply to every other serve in the game.

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      hi guys,
      the second (longer video) doesnt work. can someone upload it on uploaded.to or somewhere else?

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      Quote Originally Posted by riynn View Post
      hi guys,
      the second (longer video) doesnt work. can someone upload it on uploaded.to or somewhere else?
      Hey Riynn welcome to the site

      Yeah i am sorry but the youtube user deleted the video so we no longer have it. Ill see if i have it in my files and ill upload it for you

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      I still don't see the second video and I really want to see it.

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      @Dan

      thx a lot for the very fast response. would be great if you can upload the second video, cause i'm a huge fan of mizutanis playstyle

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      Quote Originally Posted by riynn View Post
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      thx a lot for the very fast response. would be great if you can upload the second video, cause i'm a huge fan of mizutanis playstyle
      No worries.. I will need a day or two.. stay tuned

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      Quote Originally Posted by riynn View Post
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      thx a lot for the very fast response. would be great if you can upload the second video, cause i'm a huge fan of mizutanis playstyle
      I found the video on my system and uploaded it to youtube

      Im good to you hehe,

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      Thank you very much!!

      Now i am going to practise some mizutani serves

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      Quote Originally Posted by riynn View Post
      Thank you very much!!

      Now i am going to practise some mizutani serves
      Thats OK

      Hehe good luck, post us a video when you have mastered the serves

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      Very Nice spin on the ball , at the last bit of the vid wang hao failed to return jun's serve [/SIZE]

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      Very helpful video and its amazing how much Jun's service curls visibly, must be really disorientating for his opponents....
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