Pre-made bat for a beginner

symbat said:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Pal...000&pvid=b347618d-6d59-44a6-bcd1-4bfc41410e53

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mrwriter said:

Hi everyone.

Beginner here. Like many neophytes may come asking for your guidance i please ask of you to help me choose my first premade bat.
Although i've been playing for a couple of years at the university i've only used the cheap plastic (and extremely worn out) rackets they lend us there.

So yeah my first ever decent racket. I looked into it and i believe i have 3 options that seem ok:

-STIGA Pure Color 3-Star
-DHS 4002 4-Star
-Huieson Wenge Wood & Carbon Fiber Blade 6 Star

I'm interested in something with a little speed, for working on an aggressive style. What do you think about these three? If you wish to suggest any other racket by all means, please go ahead.

Also i think i'll be buying from AliExpress, is it a good place or should i look somewhere else?

Thanks for helping out a beginner

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Suga D said:

Hi Mr. Writer,

From the premades you mentioned I only know about the DHS 4002 since one of the beginners in our club has been using one, but the thing about premades is they become unusable after the rubbers are worn out since the rubbers are very very difficult to remove from the blade.
So at first I would recommend to look beyond premades. Most of the times you can get a decent non-premade setup for the same amount of money.
And the plus side is you will be able to keep the blade after the rubbers are worn and need a removal. So in the long run it will be much cheaper to just replace rubbers instead of the whole racket. Also in my humble opinion premades are made for people who maybe play once or twice a year, so if you plan to play more frequently those premades aren't very recommendable.

I've seen you're from Mexico, so you can check if shipping costs won't be too high if you order from colestt.com
He has some very good beginner setups that are not premade so you can easily remove rubbers after they become unusable.
If you have any shops nearby you could also ask for beginner friendly setup. Many shops give discounts in rubbers and blades that aren't from the newest rubber generation but still are very good and also more beginner friendly.

So from my point of view, if you wanna do yourself a favour then stay away from premades.
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symbat said:

The Palio I listed will not have any issues removing and replacing the rubbers. Unlike those from other brands like Stiga, Killerspin and ??????

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Suga D said:

I see. I thought those were also factory-preassembled, but maybe it's just the glue that's used, or someone really assembles them manually like Cole does or many other shops also do.

In that case one must distinguish between factory-assembled premades and rather 'handmade'-premades.

There's nothing wrong about the latter.

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mrwriter said:

Thanks everyone for replying, it really helps



Thanks for the advice but why should i stay away from carbon blades? As i have a shallow understanding on the subject i believe carbon blades are stiffer providing a bit more speed, but you get less "feeling" on the ball, right? Also what should i have in mind when looking at the number of plies? The palio you suggest is an all wood 5 ply blade, whereas the Palio 3 Star (pretty much same price) is a 5+2 carbon blade with palio AK47 rubbers (i believe they are 2,2mm ones). Should i expect the latter one to be faster yet harder to control??
I ask because, on the other hand, i could get a custom one. Palio and sanwei seem to offer good equipement at a really low price. Yet the market seems to demand lots of OFF and OFF+ blades; as a rookie should i really look for an ALL? or can i take off with an ALL+ if im confident i'm going for an offensive game? And if i get a custom one, any advice for the rubbers? or should i just look for anything 2mm or below that.

Just curious, i saw 7+2 carbon blades (9 plies total) whats up with this ones?

Don't wanna make a big deal about my first bat but having the possibility to ask you is great. Really thanks

Btw sorry if my english is a bit sloppy.

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mrwriter said:

Thanks everyone for replying, it really helps



Thanks for the advice but why should i stay away from carbon blades? As i have a shallow understanding on the subject i believe carbon blades are stiffer providing a bit more speed, but you get less "feeling" on the ball, right? Also what should i have in mind when looking at the number of plies? The palio you suggest is an all wood 5 ply blade, whereas the Palio 3 Star (pretty much same price) is a 5+2 carbon blade with palio AK47 rubbers (i believe they are 2,2mm ones). Should i expect the latter one to be faster yet harder to control??
I ask because, on the other hand, i could get a custom one. Palio and sanwei seem to offer good equipement at a really low price. Yet the market seems to demand lots of OFF and OFF+ blades; as a rookie should i really look for an ALL? or can i take off with an ALL+ if im confident i'm going for an offensive game? And if i get a custom one, any advice for the rubbers? or should i just look for anything 2mm or below that.

Just curious, i saw 7+2 carbon blades (9 plies total) whats up with this ones?

Don't wanna make a big deal about my first bat but having the possibility to ask you is great. Really thanks

Btw sorry if my english is a bit sloppy.

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chikuy said:

Buy the best offensive blade you can trust it is, and put two cheap rubbers on it, by the time when you get better and better , just change rubbers and that's it, you stay with your fast and professional blade with different rubbers

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lVegita said:

If you are buying from Aliexpress, I will sum it up to you.

5 ply Yinhe blades:
- Earth 3 (E3)
- 896
- W6
- N10s
- N11s

Get the one with the prettiest handle.


For rubbers, just get the same for both sides. Can be:
- Palio AK47 Yellow/Blue
- Sanwei Taiji 88
- KTL Pro XP
- Anything will be better than a premade, actually

Buy from one of the stores mentioned here:
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...971-Reliable-table-tennis-shops-on-Aliexpress

Ask if they can glue it for you. Some of them will do.

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symbat said:

I am sorry, but disagree with this. Stay with an "ALL", or "OFF-" Wood blade. Something with some flex and not too hard of a surface. You need to develop your strokes and it is difficult to do that with a fast blade with any type of rubbers. Once you develop proper strokes, you will be able to hit the ball hard and fast enough. By the time you are ready for an upgrade you should have a better idea of how you like to play. With that knowledge you then can make an educated decision on what gear you want to graduate into.

For starting out I like the Palio setup with the CJ8000 rubbers. Those rubbers offer good grip, are not too bouncy and offer good control. I think they are better for learning on the the Palio AK47 rubbers.
The blade that I linked to in my post is a version of the below, which can be found on amazon.
"Palio Expert 2 Table Tennis Racket & Case"
Or, on Amazon dot com dot mx
"Palio de arriate 2 raqueta de tenis de mesa y estuche"

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