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What happens when Eugene tries to win every point vs a roughly USATT 2200 player...
I don't think either player was trying. If I were the 2200 guy I'd def try though, why not see how your shot quality fares against a 2700+ guy?What happens when Eugene tries to win every point vs a roughly USATT 2200 player...
Oh, you can watch the whole match, he definitely was trying. I have played Eugene before and trying doesn't really matter against certain kinds of players (Eugene has a very variation and mental effing style that you can keep respectable only if you play at a high/fast mental level), if Eugene doesn't want you to hit the ball, you probably won't hit the ball, and you may be trying really hard to hit it too! And if he lets you hit the ball, it is probably dead or loaded, you have to figure out which.I don't think either player was trying. If I were the 2200 guy I'd def try though, why not see how your shot quality fares against a 2700+ guy?
Not to mention, Eugene wasn't even really trying.....What happens when Eugene tries to win every point vs a roughly USATT 2200 player...
There's a 1800 guy I often play. I fairly often win 11-0 because we are so familiar, and his style plays into my style.Not to mention, Eugene wasn't even really trying.....
I think this is a very good example on how people often think they are higher than they really are.
If Eugene was fooling around and letting the other guy get 6 points, then this guy "could think", he is a 2200, but on a good day, can peak to a 2400~2500, since he got 6 points off a 2750 player.
However, I would say, a 2500 could even 11-0 a 2200 player in reality, or under 3.
just like a 2750 could 11-0 or under 3 a 2500 player.
That is how much a "10%" gap is in terms of a numerical rating.
Is this event in China? just going by the writing on the wallWhat happens when Eugene tries to win every point vs a roughly USATT 2200 player...
I just want to say that I want calves like Eugene's.What happens when Eugene tries to win every point vs a roughly USATT 2200 player...
Canada.Is this event in China? just going by the writing on the wall
Why is he playing somebody so much lower than him. It's interesting to see the huge different in shot quality between a 2700 level player, and 2000 guys who we see much more commonly. We're talking about the difference between top 2% of players vs the top 0.1% of players.
What is the big difference between 1900 player (about where I am now) and 2100-2200 player?the 2200 guy seems about my level. I know his feelings when facing a much higher levels player, their balls have much more quality and consistency that disrupt our rhythm and we lose by making unforced errors by ourselves
Some of it is style based but I hear you. It is hard to know how much these world class guys don't miss unless you play them. But it was interesting to see Eugene consistently loop lill the ball at will when he wanted to do so without really trying. And then able to just serve to the guy and consistently get a miss or a popup. Definitely 6 or 7 sigma principle in full effect.Not to mention, Eugene wasn't even really trying.....
I think this is a very good example on how people often think they are higher than they really are.
If Eugene was fooling around and letting the other guy get 6 points, then this guy "could think", he is a 2200, but on a good day, can peak to a 2400~2500, since he got 6 points off a 2750 player.
However, I would say, a 2500 could even 11-0 a 2200 player in reality, or under 3.
just like a 2750 could 11-0 or under 3 a 2500 player.
That is how much a "10%" gap is in terms of a numerical rating.
1800 can 11-0 another 1800...There's a 1800 guy I often play. I fairly often win 11-0 because we are so familiar, and his style plays into my style.
But against other players, he sometimes gets 3-0 on 1800 guys or gets to 2-3 against 2000 guys.
yeah, style does come into the equation, but barely if both players are well trained.Some of it is style based but I hear you. It is hard to know how much these world class guys don't miss unless you play them. But it was interesting to see Eugene consistently loop lill the ball at will when he wanted to do so without really trying. And then able to just serve to the guy and consistently get a miss or a popup. Definitely 6 or 7 sigma principle in full effect.
I didn't know there was more to the video since you linked the last set, but he does seem to be trying in the beginning. Eugene was never trying though.Oh, you can watch the whole match, he definitely was trying. I have played Eugene before and trying doesn't really matter against certain kinds of players (Eugene has a very variation and mental effing style that you can keep respectable only if you play at a high/fast mental level), if Eugene doesn't want you to hit the ball, you probably won't hit the ball, and you may be trying really hard to hit it too! And if he lets you hit the ball, it is probably dead or loaded, you have to figure out which.
I guess the most noticeable element is footwork and the attacking form. lower level players have less stable forms so higher level players can put difficult balls to break them. 1900 players I think can hit 3rd ball fine, but after 4th and 5th ball they starts to lose consistencyWhat is the big difference between 1900 player (about where I am now) and 2100-2200 player?
I'm asking because I want to know the biggest areas to work on next.
when he was 10~15 years younger (he is 38 now) and maybe 20% lighter, he doesn't look like an amateur.Eugene looks like an amateur when playing in wtt- those gaps between people are just amazing!
Of course Eugene was never trying, but if you watch Eugene, this is his style, you have to hit a certain level of speed and consistency to make him look like he is trying, if you can't even return the serve, what is the point?I didn't know there was more to the video since you linked the last set, but he does seem to be trying in the beginning. Eugene was never trying though.