JTTA: Selection System to be Revamped for Paris 2024

[zeio]

World No. 1?

World Cup 2024
Stage 1 Grp 7
Pts Won/Pts Lost
Sawettabut 76/72 (1.06)
Ito 77/78 (.99)
Amy Wang 73/76 (.96)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/wtt-singapore-smash-2024-3-7-3-17.33147/post-447649

As I've predicted, Ito has turned into Ishikawa, only getting in the way of teammates.

 

[zeio]

Yoshiyama Kazuki, Ryoichi's younger brother, and Mende have won the selection trials and qualified for Asian Youth TTC 2024 and World Youth TTC 2024.

For the girls, Takamori put her potential on display and finished 2nd, whereas Aoki, Yuna and Takeya failed big time and finished 4th, 5th and 7th.

Women
1 Mende (7W1L)
2 Takamori (6W2L)
3 UESAWA (6W2L)
4 Aoki (4W4L)
5 Ojio Yuna (4W4L)
6 MAKINO Mirei (4W4L)
7 Takeya (2W6L)
8 ONO Sharan? (2W6L)
9 YUSA Mizuki? (1W7L)

スターツ杯「2024年 アジアユース卓球選手権大会・世界ユース卓球選手権大会　U-18 日本代表選手選考　in　新発田市」
https://jtta.or.jp/tour/24726
2024 年アジアユース卓球選手権大会および 2024 年世界ユース卓球選手権大会
（男女団体・男女シングルス）日本代表選手選考基準
https://jtta.s3.ap-northeast-1.amaz...24ajiayouth_worldyouth_selection_criteria.pdf

スターツ杯2024年アジアユース卓球選手権大会・世界ユース卓球選手権大会U-18日本代表選手選考会in新発田市
https://www.city.shibata.lg.jp/event/suports/1024546.html

Match Clips:
Mende 1-3 Uesawa (-4, -9, 5, -7)
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13838354

Takamori 0-3 Mende (-10, -6, -11)
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13793456
Uesawa 1-3 Takamori
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13838459
Takamori 0-3 Aoki (-8, -9, -7)
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13782290
Takamori 3-2 Ojio Y.
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13782290
Takeya 3-2 Takamori
https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/video/player/13838213

 

[Tempest/Comet]

World No. 1?

The kid is obviously still on tilt, compounded with delusions of grandeur. Question is what knocked her off the deep end into the abyss ?🤔

 

[zeio]

JTTA's selection system >> CTTA's selection system

Miwa joins the 'I've beaten WYD this cycle' club along with Hayata, Kihara, and Hirano.

Rewarded with quite an open path to semifinals.

View attachment 29392

Paris 2024 Cycle
Singapore Smash 2023 - R32 Hirano 3-2 WYD (9, 4, -7, -4, 10)
WTTC 2023 - QF Hayata 4-3 WYD (-4, 3, 9, -6, 9, -8, 19)
Asian Games 2022 - SF Hayata 4-3 WYD (4, -3, 8, -7, -10, 13, 10)
WTT SCT Lanzhou 2023 - R16 Kihara 3-0 WYD (7, 7, 4)
WTTC 2024 - WT F Hirano 3-0 WYD (8, 11, 10)
World Cup 2024 - R16 Harimoto 4-1 WYD (10, -6, 8, 6, 14)

Overall H2H (Paris 2024)
Hirano 2 H2H 4 (2 H2H 2) WYD
Hayata 2 H2H 2 WYD
Kihara 1 H2H 3 (1 H2H 2) WYD
Harimoto 1 H2H 1 WYD
Ito 2 H2H 8 (0 H2H 4) WYD

 

[zeio]

The kid is obviously still on tilt, compounded with delusions of grandeur. Question is what knocked her off the deep end into the abyss ?🤔

Losing to SYS in WS at Tokyo 2020 as she told TV Tokyo at the start of the race.

https://web.archive.org/web/2024012...2-zennoh-cup-top32-9-34_topic91479_page8.html (08/16/2022 at 3:21am)
Screenshots and captions

https://imgur.com/a/L2s52OA

 

[zeio]

申裕彬，素塔西尼，巴特拉等人，都能赢早田希娜，却对国乒一胜难求 (SYB, Suthasini, Batra et. al. can beat Hayata, yet have a hard time getting a win against the CNT)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8984997167?pid=150136874060&cid=150136918709#150136918709
帝翼城主 是早田针对性研究国乒吗？真实实力一般般？
IP属地:上海来自iPhone客户端1楼2024-04-18 21:18回复
Is Hayata conducting targeted research on CNT? Is her real strength just so-so?

呵哈嘿🍻 球商不行，依赖团队，但是很努力坚韧
IP属地:山东来自iPhone客户端3楼2024-04-18 21:22收起回复
Poor TT quotient, relies on the team, but works hard and is tenacious
我见银河: 早田打球就是韧性足，天赋不如平野或者伊藤，而且早田除了女左这条优势，她在双反打法算是四平八稳的一种了（不过确实韧性足、能咬住能抗住），特色上不如平野或者伊藤，技术上就是左手反手撕大斜线or高抛发球后衔接一板正手高质量抢攻
2024-4-18 21:31回复
Hayata is very tough when playing, but her talent is not as good as Hirano or Ito. Besides Hayata’s advantage as a female lefty, she can be considered a consistent player with double inverted style (but she is indeed very tough, able to hang on and endure), the characteristics are not as good as Hirano or Ito. Technically, she relies on lefty backhand rip diagonal or high toss serve and then link with a high-quality forehand attack

 

[zeio]

2024澳门世界杯观赛讨论贴 (World Cup 2024 Macao Discussion Thread)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8974284806?pid=150147853875&cid=150147879997#150147879997
用户_007007 未成年的小孩儿，巴黎，女团第一局女双估计要灾难了 (Underage child, Paris, first WD match of WT is probably going to be a disaster)
IP属地:吉林来自Android客户端2928楼2024-04-20 19:08收起回复
想说什么说什么2: 主要是奥运前还进了四强信心大增跟曼女比赛场面上也不算很下风 还不如把她放莎女半区 (The main thing is that she made it to the SF before the Olympics, which has greatly increased her confidence. She was not at too much of a disadvantage in the match against daugther Man. It would've been better to put her in daughter Sha's half)
2024-4-20 19:09回复
牛奶咖啡: 看来巴黎女团这三人对我们是各个都有威胁了，我一开始还以为我们凑三分还是很稳的。。 (It seems that these 3 WT members for Paris all pose threats to us. At first, I thought that we would be very safe in getting 3 points...)
2024-4-20 19:10回复
冯天薇: 回复 想说什么说什么2 :美和又不上单打 女双有平野拖后腿 (Not like Miwa will play WS, with Hirano holding her back in WD)
2024-4-20 19:11回复
想说什么说什么2: 回复 冯天薇 :平野女双其实不差 她前三板比较挺好的 美和有落点有质量出手还狠 奥运女双肯定不好打 就看他两对双右适应的咋样了 (Hirano is actually not bad in WD. She is pretty good on 3rd ball. Miwa has good placement, shot quality, and is ruthless. The Olympic WD match will definitely be difficult. It depends on how well the 2 of them will adapt to the double righty pair.)
2024-4-20 19:13回复

 

[driversbeat]

Hayata 6
Shin Yubin 7
Miwa 8
Ito 11
Hirano 13

Miwa moves into the top 10 for the first time in her career.
Ito out of top 10 again.
Hirano stays at 13 but gains 200+ points, just 19 points behind Cheng I-Ching who also had a quarterfinal finish in the world cup.

Current Olympic Seeding:
1. SYS
2. CM/WMY
3. Hayata
4. Shin Yubin (2270 points, 700+ points ahead of Hirano)
5. Diaz (1710)
6. Szocs (1605)
7. CIC (1447)
8. Hirano (1428)
9. Mittelham
10. Yang Xiaoxin
11. Jeon Jihee
12. Bruna Takahashi
13. Han Ying
14. YJN
15. Polcanova
16. Dina Meshref

Regardless of seeding, Hirano should still watch out for lower ranked threats (poor record against Han Ying, Takahashi & Lily Zhang for obvious reasons, and of course Jeonricanne).

Edit: Looks like overtaking everyone but Shin Yubin will be feasible given Hirano's current trajectory. It will take a couple of breakthrough tournaments + stumbles by Shin for Hirano to make up for her Korean rival's Asian Games 2023 semifinal finish. Looks like her R16 exit there was not as inconsequential as she had originally thought.

 

[zeio]

As noted, the WR to be released on 2024/7/16 will be the one used for seeding. The Race to Paris 2024 ones at ITTF are only for qualification by WR only (2024/5/7 for XD and 2024/6/18 for MS/WS).

Projection for 2024/7/16 with WR points collected as of 2024/4/23
Hayata 3108-700+175=2583
SYB 2270-400-280-175+175+130+100=1820 (pretty much stuck)
Diaz 1710-210-175+70+55=1450
Szocs 1605-105+82=1582
CIC 1447-175-55+55+35=1307
Hirano 1428-400-175-70-55+43+35+15+15=836 (most potential to increase WR points given a good draw)

The point difference for a QF or R16 finish at Asian Games 2022 was only 45 pts, wouldn't help much.

Also keep in mind Szocs has the help of a recent rule change regarding the 26-week extension of continental points not enjoyed by Asian associations, another reason why I insist she and those alike have mismatched continental points (500 pts from European Games 2023 would've expired on July 2nd).

There are still 8 chances left, with the addition and date change of WTT CS Chongqing 2024.

 

[zeio]

Post-Match Interviews
SF
Harimoto on 0-4 LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDXba0wz
Harimoto says he played decently and didn't make many unforced errors, but he didn't expect LGY to play so well, that his loops were so fast yet still landed, that he had no chance. When asked about his left foot during the TO, Harimoto says he just felt fatigue and that he wasn't injured. Summing up, he says he played a little so-so in group, but his performance in the 2 KO matches is acceptable, especially in the match against Kallberg whom he had lost more (4 H2H 4 after World Cup 2024).
LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDWh1skx
WMY on 4-2 Harimoto
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaCJlAtbd

QF
WMY on 4-1 Hayata
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oat9xb8iw
CM on 4-0 Hirano
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarBGEdnH
ML on 4-2 Togami
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarpjhUSU

 

[zeio]

Ito: I'm the only current Olympic gold medalist.
WCT/DHK: The level of competition is higher than that of the last edition.

乒乓世界盃直擊︱黃鎮廷首戰落敗　與杜凱琹互相配合成就奧運資格
https://www.hk01.com/即時體育/1010486/乒乓世界盃直擊-黃鎮廷首戰落敗-與杜凱琹互相配合成就奧運資格

「杜黃配」於東京奧運打入八強，距離獎牌十分接近，但兩人異口同聲指今屆對手實力更高，預計會更難打。杜凱琹如是說：「汲取上屆教訓，當時極度高期望，然後就出事了，希望今屆可以放平心情。」

黃鎮廷則指：「其他隊都谷行去衝這面獎牌，我們如要走上頒獎台，更要默契，無論在個人技術還是心理上都要有進步。」兩人5月會赴沙特阿拉伯參與「WTT沙特大滿貫（WTT Saudi Smash）」，與多個WTT分站賽事繼續搶分，為奧運抽籤及種子排名爭取更高分數。

"Doo Wong Pair" reached the QF at Tokyo 2020 and was very close to the medal. However, both of them said that the opponents of this edition are stronger and expect the matches to be more difficult. Doo Hoi Kem said: "I learned the lessons in the last edition. I had extremely high expectations at the time, and things went haywire. I hope I can calm down this time around."

Wong Chun Ting said: "Other teams are going all out to compete for this medal. If we want to get on the podium, we must have a tacit understanding and improve both technically and mentally." The two will head for Saudi Arabia in May to participate in "WTT Saudi Smash" and continue to compete for points at multiple WTT events, striving for higher points to get a better Olympic draw and seeding.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

As noted, the WR to be released on 2024/7/16 will be the one used for seeding. The Race to Paris 2024 ones at ITTF are only for qualification by WR only (2024/5/7 for XD and 2024/6/18 for MS/WS).

Projection for 2024/7/16 with WR points collected as of 2024/4/23
Hayata 3108-700+175=2583
SYB 2270-400-280-175+175+130+100=1820 (pretty much stuck)
Diaz 1710-210-175+70+55=1450
Szocs 1605-105+82=1582
CIC 1447-175-55+55+35=1307
Hirano 1428-400-175-70-55+43+35+15+15=836 (most potential to increase WR points given a good draw)

The point difference for a QF or R16 finish at Asian Games 2022 was only 45 pts, wouldn't help much.

Also keep in mind Szocs has the help of a recent rule change regarding the 26-week extension of continental points not enjoyed by Asian associations, another reason why I insist she and those alike have mismatched continental points (500 pts from European Games 2023 would've expired on July 2nd).

There are still 8 chances left, with the addition and date change of WTT CS Chongqing 2024.

Technically 8 tournaments left, but in reality the opportunities are fewer. Feeder Cappadocia looks like Top 30 are not allowed in. Contender Rio De Janeiro and Contender Taiyuan are taking place at the same time and it looks like the JTTA has split up the JNT to fill both tournaments with Hirano attending Contender Taiyuan. Also, Contender Mendoza is taking place at the same time as Champions Chongqing. So in reality, her possible tournaments are Saudi Smash, Contender Taiyuan, Champions Chongqing, Contender Zagreb, and Star Contender Ljubljana. She's going to have to have some really great draws and results.

Edit: NM... I see your note about qualification via ranking vs. seeding. Nonetheless, I assume SYB will be at many of these events as well and has nearly a 1000 pt lead.

 

[NextLevel]

Post-Match Interviews
SF
Harimoto on 0-4 LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDXba0wz
LGY
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaDWh1skx
WMY on 4-2 Harimoto
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OaCJlAtbd

QF
WMY on 4-1 Hayata
https://weibo.com/7556183438/Oat9xb8iw
CM on 4-0 Hirano
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarBGEdnH
ML on 4-2 Togami
https://weibo.com/7556183438/OarpjhUSU

Anyone who can summarize some of this stuff in English, I will be grateful.

And anyone who can give a good overview of how to learn Chinese, even though I probably should surf Youtube and buy Rosetta stone for a serious answer, I am grateful as well.

 

[zeio]

What Harimoto said about losing to Kallberg more and so is satisfied with his performance in this World Cup reminds me of my support for the latter to get the wild card over Boll at World Cup 2015. Talk about the return on investment 8.7 years later, where Kallberg still never disappoints (3-1 -> 4-3 LJK and then 2-1 -> 2-4 Harimoto)...

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/foru...d-cup-in-2015-for-timo-boll-as-of-now#1418498

 

[zeio]

Harimoto1 has more to tell back in Japan, mainly about how he has been able to reach and maintain the bare minimum of beating European players and players from countries other than China in order to secure a medal. Also touched on the group stage. Said he was treated like a child in the SF, but that he has found the balance between consistency and explosiveness that he has been looking for like he played in the past, but he still needs to work on his risky play to make it the norm, which is more important against China. Lastly, he mentioned that he's only lost to 2 non-CNT players so far in 2024 - Boll and Matsushima and that he has gotten over the poor habit of losing left and right/falling apart/crumbling (ボロボロ) and that the only thing left to do is get back up (mostly in line with what I projected).

Harimoto1: Symmetry...
Harimoto2: Get going already...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vztMWsa09q0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aG-32o6upQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpDwq1BiUF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-oB2eQWnw (Japan's IP needed)

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www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLE3g9VCSaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5WPYEluso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8DI1mbk6FY

 

[NextLevel]

Harimoto1 has more to tell back in Japan, mainly about how he has been able to reach and maintain the minimum of beating European players and players from countries other than China in order to secure a medal. Also touched on the group stage. Said he was treated like a child in the SF, but that he has found the balance between consistency and explosiveness that he has been looking after like he played in the past, but he still needs to work on his risky play to make it the norm, which is more important against China. Lastly, he mentioned that he's only lost to 2 non-CNT players so far in 2024 - Boll and Matsushima and that he has gotten over the poor habit of losing left and right/falling apart/crumbling (ボロボロ) and that the only thing left to do is get back up (mostly in line with what I projected).

Harimoto1: Symmetry...
Harimoto2: Get going already...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vztMWsa09q0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpDwq1BiUF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aG-32o6upQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLE3g9VCSaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5WPYEluso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8DI1mbk6FY

Now he just has to win an event when the Chinese don't show up lol. And maybe one when they do. It is crazy though that Paris may not even be his real peak. But you never know what tomorrow brings, you just have to fight

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

now he can train seriously with his sister, he's gonna get much better

 

[zeio]

Added translation for Harimoto's interview in Macau.

 

[zeio]

Déjà vu? With every current JNT member other than Ito scoring at least 1 win, it's safe to assume WYD's game has been cracked. Hirano talked about beating SYS with shot timing and spin level and it seems Harimoto is onto the same thing. There are also Liu Guodong's advice to WCT and Tang Kwok Kei's comment at Asian Games 2022. It comes down to execution.

Harimoto at World Cup 2024 and Hirano at WTTC 2024
https://youtu.be/R1HDbemnOE0?t=140
https://youtu.be/Or6He4A57x0?t=484

Hirano at WTTC 2024 and Singapore Smash 2023
https://youtu.be/Or6He4A57x0?t=1867
https://youtu.be/KunWD0vh2-g?t=506

(NSFW) https://youtu.be/2ipCU4svdWQ?t=1172 (NSFW)
Kaga: Tsuee! How did he get to this level?
Nagumo: That's an outstanding match. You'll defeat Kazami-kun sooner or later. Should I expect it in the next round? Ouga should have taught you...how to defeat them.
Kaga: Nani?!

 

[zeio]

Gibraltar Life Insurance conducted an internet survey of 2000 people (1000 per gender between 20-69 during 2024/3/15-18) on "The Female Athlete I Want to Support This Year". Hirano comes in 1st (13), Hayata 2nd (12), and Ito 4th (9).

2000人に聞いた「今年、応援したい女性アスリート」ランキング！ 卓球「早田ひな」を抑えた1位は？
https://news.allabout.co.jp/articles/o/78776