what new hybrid rubber?

[TensorBackhand]

But I do not boost... it is too complicated for me. I was hoping for a rubber which would play well unboosted, I can freshen up with VOC towards the end of lifetime.

If you don't boost...maybe you can try C53. This is also a very good rubber with great control and feeling.

But boosting is easy to get into, and I think its really worth it. You'll save money with the Rhyzen/Tronix ZGR, ZGX. To me the boosted Rhyzen is better than the premium Dynaryz.

Is there a reason you don't want to boost? You can get seamoon on Aliexpess for $13 or less. You'll save money long-term by transforming cheaper rubbers into premium monsters.

 

[Fedex78]

Tensor is right, boosting is easy and seamoon is very good

 

[igorponger]

If you don't boost...maybe you can try C53. This is also a very good rubber with great control and feeling.

But boosting is easy to get into, and I think its really worth it. You'll save money with the Rhyzen/Tronix ZGR, ZGX. To me the boosted Rhyzen is better than the premium Dynaryz.

Is there a reason you don't want to boost? You can get seamoon on Aliexpess for $13 or less. You'll save money long-term by transforming cheaper rubbers into premium monsters.

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[SFF_lib]

If you don't boost...maybe you can try C53. This is also a very good rubber with great control and feeling.

But boosting is easy to get into, and I think its really worth it. You'll save money with the Rhyzen/Tronix ZGR, ZGX. To me the boosted Rhyzen is better than the premium Dynaryz.

Is there a reason you don't want to boost? You can get seamoon on Aliexpess for $13 or less. You'll save money long-term by transforming cheaper rubbers into premium monsters.

I agree. Boosting is easier than what most people think. Simply put two layers of seamoon and you will notice a huge difference.

It only gets complicated when you boost very hard sponge such as 41 degree DHS scale

 

[mil]

The post is not about how great boosting is but about what hybrid rubber can be played unboosted with spin and decent speed and catapult.

Otherwise it could change into a buy a chinese rubber and boost it post...

 

[backspacer]

ZGR vs. ZGX

Can someone compare ZGR and ZGX? Is it a big difference of just a slight variation? If I do not manage to topspin properly with the low-trajectory ZGR, is it worth bying a ZGX, which is even more expensive?

I'm switching next week to it, but also on a new blade. Probably gonna take a bit to get used to it.

 

[IB66]

2 sheets of K3 and 1 of ZGX arrived yesterday and were promptly glued to a Viscaria (K3 and ZGX),
1 old sheet of J&H H 52.5 and K3 have been glued to a Primorac all wood (Japan) [all done whilst watching the PDC World darts championship final !!]
Looks like I'll have to wait until Tuesday to give them a run out though.

 

[TensorBackhand]

2 sheets of K3 and 1 of ZGX arrived yesterday and were promptly glued to a Viscaria (K3 and ZGX),
1 old sheet of J&H H 52.5 and K3 have been glued to a Primorac all wood (Japan) [all done whilst watching the PDC World darts championship final !!]
Looks like I'll have to wait until Tuesday to give them a run out though.

Which is bouncier?

 

[mil]

I'm switching next week to it, but also on a new blade. Probably gonna take a bit to get used to it.

Can I ask - do you really play with the Dynaryz ZGR unboosted? Are you a semi-professional player that you can topspin with it?

 

[IB66]

Which is bouncier?

ZGX IS THE RED SHEET, K3 THE BLACK SHEET

 

[TensorBackhand]

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Well I can't tell too well from just that video. It seems ZGX is slightly bouncier?? But how does it feel when you hit it?

 

[IB66]

Well I can't tell too well from just that video. It seems ZGX is slightly bouncier?? But how does it feel when you hit it?

Haven’t had a chance to hit with them yet, differences are negligible for that bounce test, but yes ZGX slightly bouncier.
Hopefully I’ll have the garage clear off stuff after moving in over Xmas this weekend, then I can get my table set up and have a go v the robot and some serve practice.
1st chance to hit v people, will be at coaching session next Tuesday.

 

[backspacer]

Can I ask - do you really play with the Dynaryz ZGR unboosted? Are you a semi-professional player that you can topspin with it?

I don't boost and I'm not that kind of player either. Why the question?

 

[mil]

I just wonderer how you manage to play with ZGR, I find it rockhard and playable only with a fast stroke, I do not manage to play the slow spinny loops.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I just wonderer how you manage to play with ZGR, I find it rockhard and playable only with a fast stroke, I do not manage to play the slow spinny loops.

The Dynaryz or Rhyzen?

 

[mil]

I ment Dynaryz ZGR

 

[IB66]

short vid showing tackiness of some Hybrid rubbers
Age of rubbers
K3 2 days
ZGX 2 days
J&H H 52 6 months
RZ & RZ EH 1 yr
Glazer & G09C 9 months
Tau 2 6 months
H8-80 38 degree 3 months
Golden Tango 3 months
H8-80 37 degree 1 yr+
Seiger PK50 maybe 2 yrs
H9 1 yr

 

[Lowday20298]

Tibhar K3 and Xiom J&H H52.5 could be other options, along with Bluegrip C1 and Xiom Omega VII China Guang.

I have used J&H H52.5 and Rakza Z / Z EH, the J&H H52.5 is a very nice rubber, I like this as much, if not, more than Rakza Z EH (i would be happy to use both!!) the only issue with the J&H H 53.5 is that it is not available in UK / Europe, you have to order from Far East, I am currently waiting for 2 sheets of J&H H to turn up, they were ordered just under a month ago!!!

Maybe not the c1, not even pros use it, it's very hard. C2 is phenomenal though and used by many pros, mainly in Russia.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Maybe not the c1, not even pros use it, it's very hard. C2 is phenomenal though and used by many pros, mainly in Russia.

Is C1 harder than H3 H42?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I ment Dynaryz ZGR

Its not that hard to use. You might not be used to hard rubbers. Ive used a lot of Chinese rubbers