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So I know you've tried fingers extended. And looks like you've tried curled.
Have you tried just the traditional grip? Slightly curled?
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I do not know how i ended up here. Do not know much about penhold. I am somewhat interested how come so many chose to play with penhold? what is the reason for it?
Feel that penhold seems to be less popular, and i do not know why. With the modern BH i feel the liability of the traditional BH is gone. Anyone know why fewer young player seems to play with it?
Regarding the grip i think many players chose to play just RPB or the traditional, so they hold a way that suit one of them. If they play both i think they change grip between them. But this you guys proably know better than me. Just said what i thought.
I am also somewhat interested in the above picture. Is it two pimple rubbers? why? for twiddling? can not play RPB without inverted i feel.
I do not know how i ended up here. Do not know much about penhold. I am somewhat interested how come so many chose to play with penhold? what is the reason for it?
Feel that penhold seems to be less popular, and i do not know why. With the modern BH i feel the liability of the traditional BH is gone. Anyone know why fewer young player seems to play with it?
Regarding the grip i think many players chose to play just RPB or the traditional, so they hold a way that suit one of them. If they play both i think they change grip between them. But this you guys proably know better than me. Just said what i thought.
I am also somewhat interested in the above picture. Is it two pimple rubbers? why? for twiddling? can not play RPB without inverted i feel.
I do not know how i ended up here. Do not know much about penhold. I am somewhat interested how come so many chose to play with penhold? what is the reason for it?
Feel that penhold seems to be less popular, and i do not know why. With the modern BH i feel the liability of the traditional BH is gone. Anyone know why fewer young player seems to play with it?
Regarding the grip i think many players chose to play just RPB or the traditional, so they hold a way that suit one of them. If they play both i think they change grip between them. But this you guys proably know better than me. Just said what i thought.
I am also somewhat interested in the above picture. Is it two pimple rubbers? why? for twiddling? can not play RPB without inverted i feel.
Hello fellow penholders.
My grip is mainly like a JPEN grip. With outstretched fingers behind, usually applying pressure on my thumb and third finger.
I've played CPEN, JPEN and RPB. Nowadays, I stick to CPEN one sided, as it gives me the most control and ease of play.
My playing level is amateur | casual. https://youtu.be/WFAgaAIEybw - I'm the guy with back facing to the camera.
Please feel free to give any kind of advice, I will be more than happy to listen!
I would like to ask for some advice from fellow penholders. I'm not doing so well with my shoulder, especially if the games get more frequent. And sometimes with too much wild arm swinging, it puts me off playing TT even longer.
I would like to improve my FH stroke to be shorter and more constant. (i.e. Liang Jingkun) elbow closer to the body with a shorter forearm whip with forward motion.
Is this possible with 1 sided CPEN? Any advice or videos? I want to play a controlled, offensive game which is comfortable. Really can't keep up with the youngsters fast ball bashings now, and almost impossible for the years to come as I get even older!
Hello fellow penholders.
My grip is mainly like a JPEN grip. With outstretched fingers behind, usually applying pressure on my thumb and third finger.
I've played CPEN, JPEN and RPB. Nowadays, I stick to CPEN one sided, as it gives me the most control and ease of play.
My playing level is amateur | casual. https://youtu.be/WFAgaAIEybw - I'm the guy with back facing to the camera.
Please feel free to give any kind of advice, I will be more than happy to listen!
I would like to ask for some advice from fellow penholders. I'm not doing so well with my shoulder, especially if the games get more frequent. And sometimes with too much wild arm swinging, it puts me off playing TT even longer.
I would like to improve my FH stroke to be shorter and more constant. (i.e. Liang Jingkun) elbow closer to the body with a shorter forearm whip with forward motion.
Is this possible with 1 sided CPEN? Any advice or videos? I want to play a controlled, offensive game which is comfortable. Really can't keep up with the youngsters fast ball bashings now, and almost impossible for the years to come as I get even older!
This video specifically talks about a short stroke for power loop with penhold. Basically you want to minimize the movement of your elbow while looping. At the moment of contact, move your wrist to produce more power.
I do not know much about penhold but i think it is rather similar to shakehand.
Do you warm up before training? try doing some rubber band.
Are you holding the racket hard and tensing the arm? this will cause some strain on the shoulder.
My opinion about technique is that you never want to have the elbow closer to the body. Then you do not use the forearm and will have a harder time to create spin. You also get more tense and the arm will not swing faster when you use the body in the shot. Like a golf swing but with not extended forearms. I think you get much much more free power and spin from the teqchnique if you try to have the arm extended and relax so you will benefit from the body, then you can try to pull the forearm together.
I also think like i said it will take more on your shoulder if you have elbow closer to the body, you get more tense and if you try to stop the stroke it will also be harder for the arm. Interesting to think if you lose more time by stopping the motion, because then you need tense and then relax. I think you will have faster recovery if you have a longer more relaxed motion.
I also think it is better to try to learn RPB, so use two rubbers. To bad backhand with one side. And against the youngsters maybe you can have the racket higher so you become faster, serve more long if they are good at banana flick like young people often are, work on placement, variation in tempo and the serve and return game.
I do not know how i ended up here. Do not know much about penhold. I am somewhat interested how come so many chose to play with penhold? what is the reason for it?
Hello PHers!!
I need some advice. I'm a Jpen player w/ RPB. My problem is I struggle against allrounders, players who blocks a lot and attacks with slow shots. Creating my own power is not really my strength, I'm more of a counter looper from mid distance which relies on opponents power in order to create a powerful shot of my own..a spin-drive as others call it. But when it come to allrounders, my shots suddenly are too weak and inconsistent, also my timing is off that I end up running around just trying to put the ball on the other side of the net. They really destroy my rhythm.
My strategy is usually open up first and open up strong as longer rallies put me in a disadvantage. But somehow these guys are able to block my 3rd or 2nd ball attacks and puts the ball close to the net rather somewhere near the end line of the table. This is where I screw up, my first option is still try to counter the ball, but I just can't find the right timing which makes my attack relatively weak and easy for my opponent to block to the other direction, this is where me running around starts. My second option is to just block it, but the ball returned much weaker where they are able to counter it. And finally I just tried to flat hit the ball, this has more success rate when it went it but way too inconsistent.
I was hoping you guys can give me some tips on how to handle such players. Thanks.
Hello PHers!!
I need some advice. I'm a Jpen player w/ RPB. My problem is I struggle against allrounders, players who blocks a lot and attacks with slow shots. Creating my own power is not really my strength, I'm more of a counter looper from mid distance which relies on opponents power in order to create a powerful shot of my own..a spin-drive as others call it. But when it come to allrounders, my shots suddenly are too weak and inconsistent, also my timing is off that I end up running around just trying to put the ball on the other side of the net. They really destroy my rhythm.
My strategy is usually open up first and open up strong as longer rallies put me in a disadvantage. But somehow these guys are able to block my 3rd or 2nd ball attacks and puts the ball close to the net rather somewhere near the end line of the table. This is where I screw up, my first option is still try to counter the ball, but I just can't find the right timing which makes my attack relatively weak and easy for my opponent to block to the other direction, this is where me running around starts. My second option is to just block it, but the ball returned much weaker where they are able to counter it. And finally I just tried to flat hit the ball, this has more success rate when it went it but way too inconsistent.
I was hoping you guys can give me some tips on how to handle such players. Thanks.