2019 Bulgaria Open (World Tour)

Originally Posted by Sali

As I told before this stat is useless. There are many different lower level chinese players who were beaten by JNT members, but they will not join the China olympic team. For me only top chinese players results are important from last 3 months. And the stats shows:
ito: 0:2
ishikawa: 1:5
hayata 0:1
hirano 0:2
sato 1:1
kato 1:3

Great! And what is the result of your 3 months analysis, other that JPN should just forfeit all olympic games against CNT players? Your statistics are flawed anyway. How can you count katos win against CM with the T2 fast5 system? i think taking the last 12-18 months into consideration get you better results then 2-3 games to compare the results

So the banshee won, Zhao Zihao played really well regardless of bad decision to challenge the back hand. Have to say penhold is not going away, saw a post somewhere that its a dying style ... hah.

Originally Posted by NoFootwork

Why is Zhao continuously getting into BH-BH exchanges with Harimoto. Unless your name is Wang Hao in his prime, going RPB BH-BH with Harimoto is not recommended. TH is not intimated by the mullet.

Exactly.

People who lose to Harimoto are the one trying to break his BH. TBH Harimoto's BH is among the most consistent and most brutal in the world.

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Another observation, the CNT still hasn't figured out Harimoto's serve. Ma Long, ZJK, XX, FZD and Zhao all returned his serve pretty high.

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Originally Posted by SFF_lib

Another observation, the CNT still hasn't figured out Harimoto's serve. Ma Long, ZJK, XX, FZD and Zhao all returned his serve pretty high.

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You write this as if the CNT is a single player, with a well-defined and more or less constant set of skill, ability, prowess.

I think the CNT consists of many players, all differrently skilled snd talented, and all with better and lesser days and streaks.

Originally Posted by karupinkun

Great! And what is the result of your 3 months analysis, other that JPN should just forfeit all olympic games against CNT players? Your statistics are flawed anyway. How can you count katos win against CM with the T2 fast5 system? i think taking the last 12-18 months into consideration get you better results then 2-3 games to compare the results

My point is different. I wanted to show that history statistic does not always pay.
Japan TT Association try to figure out how to find best players against china, but case of Hirano who took down all best chinese 2 years ago passed away.
Also wins against second hand chinese players who Will not participate olympics also does not count.
Only current form and development of New young players will pay off.

Originally Posted by Sali

Also wins against second hand chinese players who Will not participate olympics also does not count.

I think I'm not a bear to sleep between the Olympics, neither are any of the TT players.

Some pictures of former Olymics vilages and facilities:




















OK, I'm a fan of the Olymics idea but what is happening in reality makes no sense at all.

Refreshingly depressing!

Originally Posted by Sali

As I told before this stat is useless. There are many different lower level chinese players who were beaten by JNT members, but they will not join the China olympic team. For me only top chinese players results are important from last 3 months. And the stats shows:
ito: 0:2
ishikawa: 1:5
hayata 0:1
hirano 0:2
sato 1:1
kato 1:3

1. Your criteria makes these stats absolutely meaningless, the sample size is too small if they have to beat the "top" chinese players over just 3 months.
2. Records against non-"top" chinese players are still meaningful, if they can never even beat lower-tier chinese players, what hope would they have in beating the top players in a major event?
3. From this, we can say that Ishikawa, Kato, and especially Sato (who hasn't lost any match against a top CNT) should go to the Olympics. I'm not sure if anyone would disagree that it would be a terrible idea.

Some of those Olympic venues are probably in Sarajevo. The point is still true, Olympics are a boondoggle.

Originally Posted by zeio

Keeping this in yet another time capsule for 2024 and perhaps 2028.

Check out my other time capsules:

To be fair, the bit about Harimoto is kind of true. He's not been doing too well in 2019. Same for Ito.
But they are both young, no reason to think they won't improve.

Always a bit sceptical about "decoding" players. It's a luxury for players who are fundamentary better in techniques. JNT spends as much time and money analyzing CNT too.