Rubber suggestions for a Jpen player

[lasta]

Hi guys,

I have a regular training partner looking for a new rubber.

He is currently using H3 with a ~7.5mm 5-ply walnut blade (sorry don't know the make, but blade doesn't lack power). Plays a compact stroke, counter-driving style. Good consistency, but lacks finishing power.

Looking for something hard to very hard but faster at low-medium impact vs the H3. His strokes are far too small to bring out the top end of H3.

Had him try my Hexer HD and Mantra M. Fast enough, but both are too soft, exact comment was "too flimsy, too mushy, can't feel the ball".

Any suggestions for something hard, direct, but still fast?

 

[lasta]

BTW, my guess is the HD and Mantra are already on the hard end of German/Japanese rubbers.

 

[trumpet_guy]

I have a friend who plays Tenergy 05 on his Jpen and loves it. Great looping setup, and it has finishing power.

 

[729B2]

tenergy 05 or 05 hard or dignics 05 or omega 7 tour or stiga dna?

 

[lasta]

Thanks for the suggestions!

Unfortunately, T05 is softer than Mantra which is softer still than the Hexer HD.

Are there anything with a 50 degree+ sponge and hard topsheet?

 

[trumpet_guy]

Perhaps T05 Hard, MX-P 50, Omega VII Tour

 

[alas26]

Not knowing anything else really about him, I can only judge off of what I’d use. I would go for Nittaku FastArc G-1 or Xiom Omega V Asia.


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[mart1nandersson]

What about the ESN hybrids like Tibhar K1/2/whatever, Stiga Genesis II M or Joola Golden Tango? Especially the Tibhar can be found fairly cheap on AliExpress.

 

[yogi_bear]

Xiom omega 7 asia or tour.

 

[lasta]

Xiom omega 7 asia or tour.

Hi Yogi, how do you think the Joola Tango and K1 match to the Omega in terms of hardness? Isn't the Xiom rubber supposed to have a soft topsheet?

Thanks.

 

[Lula]

I can imagine hard regular rubbers Will work fine. It just feel very soft because he is used to the hurricane. And Maybe he need to work om the technique aswell? Step out more? Use body more? Stop the stroke? Use better placement?

 

[lasta]

Thanks guys,

Told him to go and try out the Omega, T05-hard, and Tango Golden. Whatever comes of it is up to him.

About technique? Some people are very stubborn, he's been playing his ultra-compact style for 15 years, a bit set in his ways. We had the same coach, even the coach couldn't get through to him lol.

 

[yogi_bear]

Comes down to personal preference.

 

[suds79]

I use to play Jpen back in the day. Have played Cpen for years now.

I always felt like I personally spin it better with cpen but the power on Jpen was unmatched. I always joked that it was like hitting the ball with a baseball bat.

Anyways my point is that your friend lacks finishing power with Jpen, I'm thinking it's their technique & stroke. You yourself said they have a consistent, compact stroke. That to me makes sense. Short strokes are good I think for consistency but IMO they also lack power.

Need to have that Chinese style forehand arm extended to maximize power in those situations.

Just a thought off the top of my head.

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Side Note: I just stumbled across this translated video featuring Ryu Seung-Min) NICE!)

Anyways, when he smokes that ball talking about his style that works for him, (1:04 in the video) that arm is extended to get the power needed.

No compact stroke there. I haven't seen your friend swing but that's the point I was trying to make.

 

[suds79]

This channel is a gold mine by the way with the translations.

Here Ryu is talking about practicing with power among other things.

 

[Baal]

Mantra H.

 

[zeio]

He might want to look into softer rubbers instead if he's looking for more speed at low-medium impacts with a 7.5mm 5-ply walnut blade.

 

[SFF_lib]

This channel is a gold mine by the way with the translations.

Here Ryu is talking about practicing with power among other things.

TT is so different without Jpen players. I miss the era of RSM. The footwork, the FH, the power and the spirit.