Upgrading my Nittaku Fastarc G1.

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hybrid rubbers have a break-in period, which can take up to 5 training sessions, depending on level of factory boosting, rubber shelf time, among others.
I had a sheet of Omega VII China Guang which was fine out of the box. The second one I bought needed two weeks of breaking in, and two seperate boosting procedures to be playable.
Kind of dumb, and makes you question how bad QC and shelf time actually is, but that's the reality.
 
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Deleted them because I had an insane experience I cant explain. Well ill try.
I have my own martial arts Dojo next to my house where I teach many classes in the mornings. In the afternoons its TT time instead. I had some loooong matches that evening and was tired. Finally the rubbers arrived after 1.5 months of waiting that night. (first pair of sheets got stolen by customs. I live in south america. Im scandinavian). Spend the evening gluing and regluing the G1 on wifes racket and K3 on mine. Skipped dinner. It was getting dark. I wanted to test it out. We played. I swear to god it felt like a DHS rubber to me. totally dead. not even much spin. After 20 min I just dropped it and got so disappointed. I was like wtf? all the reviews? Am I insane? the G1 is way better etc.
This morning I was still upset. finally I had some time today to try it out again. I think I must have been hallucinating yesterday because its just not the same rubber today. I washed it. cleaned it. maybe some layer of something got off? I have no explanation for this but its completely different now. Its fast spinny and amazing. better than my G1. best setup I ever had so far. I dont know what happened last night but its not even slightly close to being the same experience. Maybe I was too tired to engage the sponge late at night? dont know.
1 take home message I had was to not evaluate anything in just 20 min. and give it a chance to be played in I guess. And especially if your tired and hungry dont use it. Despite that I am still tripping on how different it feels now.
I still feel insane haha.
So thats the story :)
still learning here.
p.s. another thing. after my own personal experience I realize several things about listening to others when they recommend and dont recommend equipment:

1) people are often emotional and not actually able to neutrally observe the experience and usage of the equipment. In my case, expectations followed by disappointment.
2) some rubbers and blades actually require a really good player to appreciate. I suspect there are too many low level players having high level opinions about equipment they shouldnt even use. In my case I couldnt feel the K3 and it was shit because of ME. Today with fresh new energy I can see what it can do when I actually go for it and play proper.
3) this is what makes me suspicious about those cheap chinese rubbers and blades. (I bought some to test out when they arrive) I think lower level players cant feel a difference. How many high level players are out there recommending some 10$ rubber? Or a 30$ blade? I truly hope they exist as I hope these cheaper options actually do what people say they do. But I dont know the level of these people and their play.
Thats why I will try it out for myself and ordered few blades and rubbers.

Anyways, long story short, one need to try only take advice from experienced people when it comes to choosing equipment.
I had the same story at the beginning with G1. The first training session I was disappointed with this. At the same time, I took a friend’s racket with old G1s and couldn’t believe that they were the same rubber, how much better the old rubbers were.
Regarding K3. I tried it on a friend’s racket and immediately didn’t like the high release angle. How do you like this?
Many Chinese rubbers do not work without a booster and sometimes without oil. Have you also ordered a booster?
 
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hybrid rubbers have a break-in period, which can take up to 5 training sessions, depending on level of factory boosting, rubber shelf time, among others.
I had a sheet of Omega VII China Guang which was fine out of the box. The second one I bought needed two weeks of breaking in, and two seperate boosting procedures to be playable.
Kind of dumb, and makes you question how bad QC and shelf time actually is, but that's the reality.
I wish someone told me this beforehand as I thought I was going crazy. It literally felt like a unboosted DHS without tackiness and spin. I was wtf? is this pro rubbers? I got so depressed its funny thinking back. Now its so fast I need to play insanely clean technically speaking. Cant chill with this rubber.
 
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I had the same story at the beginning with G1. The first training session I was disappointed with this. At the same time, I took a friend’s racket with old G1s and couldn’t believe that they were the same rubber, how much better the old rubbers were.
Regarding K3. I tried it on a friend’s racket and immediately didn’t like the high release angle. How do you like this?
Many Chinese rubbers do not work without a booster and sometimes without oil. Have you also ordered a booster?
Yes I learned from this experience to never judge a rubber until several weeks time of playing it. G1 needs 10 hours or so I believe.

So glad you asked about the K3 angle as it tells me im not the only one observing how high it is.
Here is what I see: you play somewhat slow shots to somewhat slow balls your playing ONLY the rubber. You play little harder or much harder, sponge is getting involved and its like a totally schizophrenic personality change in the rubber. There is no in between. If any rubber should be called mr. jekyll and mr. hyde it should be this.
So I love the sponge and how it plays. Its less arc and lots of spin and insane speed. very secure placement. However I cant play that hard all the time. Im not a pro 22 year old. I get tired too quick.
I play the rubber part only its totally different. arc high. throw high. in slow game I overshoot the table non stop. even rubber only has 2 personalities.... it shifts from totally dead, and very spinny but still slow.
Funny part is I loose to bad players who play slow. Put me up against an aggressive attacker I play like im in godmode.
I know its all me and if I was a better player and understood the dynamic of what I am dealing with here better I am sure I could use this insane amount of gears offered. Its my first hybrid. Most likely will be my last. I think my playstyle is for full blood ESN rubbers.
The G1 and many other rubbers has similar situation but with a much smoother "grey zone" of transition. I can feel when what kicks in. Im WAY more consistent with G1.
I think Pro's knows how to handle K3 and its just that advanced.
My retired pro friend tried it and he LIT up. Smiled and had fun. but also had a hard time controlling it. He said he would need to get used to it. I never seen him struggle with a rubber this much. He plays anything usually.

In a way im kind of glad this is the situation. It would suck if I simply loved this rubber and couldn't live without it. It last short time and cost an arm and a leg. So the next few months its my rubber and Ill learn from it as much as I can. Learning to feel the equipment and overcome its challenges. I think there is something to be said about this. Some value.
good experience. Not a keeper. Its clearly for very high level players.
 
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My Nittarku Fastarc G1 is finally giving in after 8-10 months of daily use. (max both sides and blade is BTF Viscaria)

I hastily ordered the Tibhar Hybrid K3.(live overseas, takes long time to arrive). But soon after I realize this rubber wont last long which is a bummer. Im pretty sure I will like it but I got no interest in changing rubbers every 2nd month.
I would love to order the Dignics 09c as its durable and an upgrade from the G1. However the price tag just doesnt justify it. I mean 170$ plus shipping for some rubbers? The K3 was a stretch already at 70$ each. Even more now when I found out it wont last long. If I knew I would have paid the 30$ extra for 09C as economically it would be justified due to longer lifespan.

However I am already now looking at what to replace my now G1 and future K3 with in a few months.

I would just like to upgrade from G1. Without breaking the bank. (my wife will kill me haha).

I am looking at the Yasaka rubbers. are any of them better than G1?
My playing style is very all round. I play both wings same level. Im offensive player but due to injury in my arm I cant put FULL force in my shots so I like the G1 for its speed. I use a lot of spin in my game. I play close, far, everything.
09c seems to have the perfect speed, spin and control. Im just not shelling out the $ for it.
Any feedback is welcome.
btw. I just signed up for this forum. So be gentle ;)
Same thing happened to me. K3's tackiness wear off after a week of doing multiballs. I tried several other rubbers but I still went back to G1. It's durable and fits perfectly with my viscaria.
 
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You can try:
Stiga DNA Hybrid XH/H ( barely a hybrid, almost not tacky, very grippy), the most expensive one out of these. I found it pretty similar to G-1, not quite the same but close enough
Stiga Mantra Pro XH/H, can get it for 30-35 Euro on Aliexpress,
Loki Arthur China, 12-18 Euros
I tried the regular mantra M and felt it has the same control with G1 maybe better
 
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yes, it is the very latest rubber from nittaku and said to be the successor to the hammond z2 rubber.
it is a little harder with its 52.5° sponge, but its not hard to activate sponge, the spin is pretty good and it is easy to loop underspin. Basically an evolution of the g-1 i would say.
There are reviews from tabletennis11 and a few youtubers.
 
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I think C55 is more Chinese / H3 like than A1. It feels a bit more tacky and spin oriented but also a little easier to activate. I prefer C55 at this point.
I'm using C55 right now on the forehand and it's working for me but it is really only very slightly tacky, if at all and way faster than H3 at passive and semi active swing speeds. Somehow the loss in control at lower speeds is not an issue for me in match as I'm usually always working the racket. Less work for me than my other favorite FH rubber Loki Arthur China. Both C55 and LAC works for me better than Bluestar A1 as those feel "crisper" than A1.
 
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