Yet another personal attack from a new member on this site lmao. Glad I hit a nerve there. There's another 1 on this thread too. Maybe they're all Sjan?
99% of your posts are on this thread, same with Viper. You have literally 0 credibility. I won't waste any more time with you two.
Ok, I looked a little deeper into this story and the pivoting moment was WTTC in Dortmund, where in singles won Waldner, silver Persson and Grubba and Yu Shentong with bronze. In the team event Chinese lost to Swedes 0-5 and it looks like that was the last straw. The old CNT was dissolved and they dug up all the inverted they had.
I think you take Olympics a little too seriously. The results there are always worse than in other international competitions. All the records are worse and a lot of Olympic sports are not even to be considered seriously.
And otherwise they would send there whom exactly? They want to win in an international competition and they send "the strongest against foreign associations". Big surprise.
Ah yes, his training partner that was supposed to beneath him in traditional Chinese hierarchy stepping over him during pushups. Frankly much of this sounds like some republican think tank composition with some good dose of Mccarthyrist sensationalism, or not to go too far - the daily news headline.If we are to believe his training partner, he used to lose to his double inverted training partner who mimicked Waldner in practice all the time. So whether his advantage was the ceiling of his equipment or the Chinese training system that gave him a practice partner to optimize his game, I'll leave that to people to decide.
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Hahaha - the training partner is listed a co-writer and went on to have a successful career in table tennis outside of China playing for/in the USA. I am usually skeptical in my professional life, hence my framing, but I know the journalist/main writer of the co-writers is anything but politically sensationalist, rightwing or gullible (http://tabletenniscoaching.com/) even if he does sometimes write science fiction (btw stepping over him is not the same as standing over him) while the training partner (https://mdttc.com/cheng-yinghua/) has enough links to China and high level table tennis that there is no serious reason to doubt his account unless you really want to believe that he was really that low on the hierarchy but still travelled outside of China on behalf of the team.
I think I should add how and why Chinese lost for the completeness, after all it was my main question in this thread. This touches on tactics and the limits of the game at that age.
I think you give KLH credit without realizing that a significant part of his development happened in Europe (Sweden). The coaches in Europe worked hard on teaching him backhand and were proud of their work doing so.
Thanks, I didn't know. Of course, most of such accounts will have a lot of backwards rationalizations, especially from a layman like me—I'm very aware of it. It usually takes a work of a proper historian to dig up all the details and show the real, nuanced story.
I don't think of KLH quite that way though he is definitely one of my all time favorite players. I don't think he was *very modern*, he definitely didn't dominate the backhand diagonal like modern players do, even if aspects of his play are more balanced than say Wang Liqin, and he pivoted *a lot*. Someone like Korbel or Samsonov or Saive or even Persson for me is more similar to modern play where there is a balanced ability to attack from both wings viciously, even off the serve. You don't get quite that level of two winged viciousness on CNT until Wang Hao, though of course there were lots of players with good backhsnds before that.
Having learned that I have to question once again whether Falck really is/was a fluke, rather than a glimpse of a hyper-novel style.
Sure, it was still different generation, but I meant things like this:
That's against Waldner, if you are going to say that no one else was playing similarly, it's not by looking at one player who had a forehand oriented style. What about this 3 years earlier?
It's mostly because she is addicted to FH smashing using inverted, which is far from the best use of inverted. She never developed a true quality consistent FH loopkill and loop. Everyone was exploiting her weaknesses and lack of stability on the FH. And it is a self inflicted weakness imo.
Yes, this is what I said in the other thread, a lot of pips players over rely on the pips and didn't develop their inverted side to the max unlike a lot of inverted players. Imo they already overachieved relative to their technical level.
