Should we forgive substandard rackets.

[igorponger]

Should we forgive substandard rackets.

Never we should, unless you like receiving self-humiliation (Sacher-Masoch syndrome). Another good reason for banishing substandard rackets is the need to always maintain fair play with all players. What is more, using trashy rubbers is some insult on your playmates, I strongly believe.

 

[TheProfessor]

Should we forgive substandard rackets.

Never we should, unless you like receiving self-humiliation (Saher-Masoch syndrome). Another good reason for banishing substandard rackets is the need to always maintain fair play with all players. What is more, using trashy rubbers is some insult on your playmates, I strongly believe.

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Even worn-out rubbers that look fine are a pain in the ass to play against. As they essentially work like "anti-spin" rubbers sometimes it does, sometimes it feels like an inverted. It's just so annoying to play against.

 

[lodro]

Please define : "forgive".
The way you say it it just sounds arrogant. 😁

 

[latej]

We need to see it as a "work invested into the rubber"...

You wouldn't complain a player invested a lot of work into his training, would you?

Now this is the same...

We invest the same into a training as we invest into our equipment...

Things equalize, both are important, EQUALLY!!!

FINALLYYYY!!!

 

[GregorTT425]

Worn-out rubbers are really funky to play against, something like an anti-spin with the only difference that sometimes they can produce spin like an an inverted grippy rubber. I think we might "forgive" them, as we don't know if these players are doing it willfully to deceive others, don't have money to buy a new one or simply don't care about that.

It should also apply to players using pips or anti-spin. These rubbers are not "junk rubbers" and the players using it are not "junk players". These terms are being said by people not able to play against these rubbers. These rubbers are only helping hands for particular styles and are not for cheating or f*cking up the game.
I know this is irrelavant to this topic, but had to mention.

Thanks.

 

[lodro]

Worn-out rubbers are really funky to play against, something like an anti-spin with the only difference that sometimes they can produce spin like an an inverted grippy rubber. I think we might "forgive" them, as we don't know if these players are doing it willfully to deceive others, don't have money to buy a new one or simply don't care about that.

It should also apply to players using pips or anti-spin. These rubbers are not "junk rubbers" and the players using it are not "junk players". These terms are being said by people not able to play against these rubbers. These rubbers are only helping hands for particular styles and are not for cheating or f*cking up the game.
I know this is irrelavant to this topic, but had to mention.

Thanks.

I think it is perfectly relevant to this topic and our job is not to forgive but to learn how to cope with what comes towards us. As long as the rubbers are legal as defined by the probably 6 page rules according to ITTF.......

 

[Lazer]

Should we forgive substandard rackets.

Never we should, unless you like receiving self-humiliation (Saher-Masoch syndrome). Another good reason for banishing substandard rackets is the need to always maintain fair play with all players. What is more, using trashy rubbers is some insult on your playmates, I strongly believe.

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Nothing to forgive, if You cant play against them go practice.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[blahness]

If it produces inconsistent balls it will also be inconsistent for them too resulting in more errors. Most equipment related issues in TT is a double edged sword. Although it would be very annoying to play against.

 

[GregorTT425]

I think it is perfectly relevant to this topic and our job is not to forgive but to learn how to cope with what comes towards us. As long as the rubbers are legal as defined by the probably 6 page rules according to ITTF.......

Yeah, guess you right. About the forgiving, it is rather unclarified what is considered as forgiving, you know what I'm saying. There might be the case we cannot forgive someone using inverted rubbers but in an extremely foolish way. Seems strange to me. The point is, whoever likes a way, they should play that particular way, of course as long as it is allowed by the official rules.

 

[igorponger]

"Don't get into bad mess." (advice by a national Umpire)​

/Here is a typical verbal dialogue between Refery-on-duty and the offensive player/

R) -- Your racket did fail to comply with the official Rules as approved by our national authorities. Please take care to replace it for another one right now.

OP) -- What hell! Nobody did express a word against this racket, for years ...
What's particularly wrong with the racket?

R) -- Please, take my advice or you will get banished from the event immediately. Your present racket is judged outlaw in accordance to the ITTF Regulations we have now adopted for all our domestic events. Just look into the USATT Rules Book. Do you have one?

OP) - ???

R) -- OK, I could give you mine as a charity aid. Take notes of the Rules 3.2.1.3 and the Rules 2.4 in particular.
Be quick, man. You ought to replace the racket within a few minutes.

 

[lodro]

"Don't get into bad mess." (advice by a national Umpire)​

/Here is a typical verbal dialogue between Refery-on-duty and the offensive player/

R) -- Your racket did fail to comply with the official Rules as approved by our national authorities. Please take care to replace it for another one right now.

OP) -- What hell! Nobody did express a word against this racket, for years ...
What's particularly wrong with the racket?

R) -- Please, take my advice or you will get banished from the event immediately.
Your present racket is judged outlaw in accordance to the ITTF Regulations we have now adopted for all our domestic events. Just look into the USATT Rules Book. Do you have one?

OP) - ???

R) -- OK, I could give you mine as a charity aid.
Take notes of the Rules 3.2.1.3 and the Rules 2.4 in particular.
Be quick, man. You ought to replace the racket within a few minutes.

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See, Igor my friend, there is no need for any forgiving .
All it needs is a kind but firm way to say to the delinquent :"Stop being a dick and get some new rubbers or go home" 😁

 

[Kolev]

If it produces inconsistent balls it will also be inconsistent for them too resulting in more errors. Most equipment related issues in TT is a double edged sword. Although it would be very annoying to play against.

Yeah sounds right, but those guys don't realize(if at all) their inconsistency as much as we do, because for them it happens gradually for a minimum of an year playing time so they gradually adapt to the behavior of their rubbers. We suffer much more. I have this too much around me

 

[GregorTT425]

I think there is nothing to forgive here. Antispin rubbers and pimples are different rubbers serving a different purpose, but under no circumstances scr*wing up the game. They are made for a different style and that's it.
As for the rubbers so worn-out playing like an anti or pimple, oh well, that is unpleasant yeah, but what can you do? You cannot force anyone to buy new rubbers or change them to inverted. These rubbers are really hard to play with and against, but if they want to, let them. You can't do anything about it, anyways.