The different ways of boosting

[Topspinslinger]

Hello,

so i recently started playing with tacky chinese rubbers, and i really really enjoy them, so i bought haifu regular booster for it.

Now there are a lot of youtube videos about how to apply booster, but i find them very confusing because the different ways.

Do i apply one glue layer and then apply thin booster, or do i apply booster directly to the sponge?

What difference does it make to playing characteristics and the lasting of the booster?

I always thought it was directly applying but maybe that just breaks the rubber faster??

 

[Der_Echte]

If you did not get that H3 from a vendor on Upsdide Down Carl's approved vendor list, or did the secret handshake when purchasing it, the Goon Squad is gunna think you have an unauthorized national version and will chase you all over earth.

 

[Topspinslinger]

This is NOT an endorsement of spoosting or spin gluing in anyway , as it is illegal under laws of most nations as defined by rule 2.4.7 .
I say this because it is so crazy hilarious when players talk as if they are obeying the law when they openly boast that they are using so called ITTF approved spoosters or spin glues.
Because there is no such thing as ITTF aprroved spin glues or spoosters except only in your crazy imagination.
If you take a look at https://equipment.ittf.com/#/equipment/balls there is no such thing under any of those tabs.

Oh BTW more serious violators especially at lower levels do not use so called IYYF approved chemicals., especially in poor countries . They make their own dangerous concoctions while IOC stands by and had done nothing for more than 28 years. From the viewpoint of a serious violator of 2.4.7 , the so called ITTF approved chemicals are as just as the useless low aspect ratio low length low pip distribution density on ITTF are for a pips player.

i am very confused by your comment, Are you saying i should not boost my rubber because of ITTF regulations?

 

[DukeGaGa]

There's no big difference among the different ways of using booster, booster is booster, the amount you use plays a much bigger role.

 

[TensorBackhand]

There's no big difference among the different ways of using booster, booster is booster, the amount you use plays a much bigger role.

I agree with this. A lot of tutorials say to apply a glue layer, but i have never found that to serve any purpose at all.

You can just go ahead and put booster directly on the sponge, or over the glue layer.

 

[Topspinslinger]

I agree with this. A lot of tutorials say to apply a glue layer, but i have never found that to serve any purpose at all.

You can just go ahead and put booster directly on the sponge, or over the glue layer.

i will! thanks

 

[JJ Ng]

A few comments:

1) Booster is technically illegal. But all Chinese players do it. I think Ma Lin was caught showing his boosting process on the chinese social media many years ago.

2) My argument is, if boosting is illegal, then why should ESN companies be allowed to alter the rubber in any other way and pre-tune the rubber? Is that legal? Or maybe it is legal, because ESN companies bought off ITTF officials to make it legal?

3) We all know a couple fresh coats of water-based glue will make the rubber more bouncey. You can watch Timo Boll's and Dimitrij Ovtcharov's rubber gluing videon on YouTube. They all apply at least 2 layers of glue before applying the rubber. We are not stupid. We know what they meant to do. That is altering the surface of the sponge. So maybe we should say the rule is one coat of glue only and the blade cannot be played for 24 hours after gluing a rubber?

4) The purpose of the speed glue ban is on health issue. The booster on the market does not produce any harmful substances (as far as we know). And if ITTF really wants to go after it, it has been 10+ years since booster has not been on the market. ITTF can easily pass a rule that any rubbers to be glued onto the blade need to be done 30 minutes before competition with one layer of glue. No booster is allowed. Well, ITTF has done nothing in that area. that's why it is a grey area.

5) I don't plan to compete in any ITTF competition soon so I am boosting my rubber.

6) No need to apply a layer of glue before applying the booster. I don't know why applying a layer of glue would be helpful. H3 neo comes out of the package with a layer of glue already (you can tell when you peel off the sheet).

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

TopSpinSlingers's question was whether he or she should boost in the first place based on ITTF regulations FIRST.
I wish some people learnt to read.
To answer TopSpinSlingers's question, 2.4.7 is a Rule which is a level above a Regulation

Where is this question?

 

[lodro]

A few comments:

1) Booster is technically illegal. But all Chinese players do it. I think Ma Lin was caught showing his boosting process on the chinese social media many years ago.

2) My argument is, if boosting is illegal, then why should ESN companies be allowed to alter the rubber in any other way and pre-tune the rubber? Is that legal? Or maybe it is legal, because ESN companies bought off ITTF officials to make it legal?

3) We all know a couple fresh coats of water-based glue will make the rubber more bouncey. You can watch Timo Boll's and Dimitrij Ovtcharov's rubber gluing videon on YouTube. They all apply at least 2 layers of glue before applying the rubber. We are not stupid. We know what they meant to do. That is altering the surface of the sponge. So maybe we should say the rule is one coat of glue only and the blade cannot be played for 24 hours after gluing a rubber?

4) The purpose of the speed glue ban is on health issue. The booster on the market does not produce any harmful substances (as far as we know). And if ITTF really wants to go after it, it has been 10+ years since booster has not been on the market. ITTF can easily pass a rule that any rubbers to be glued onto the blade need to be done 30 minutes before competition with one layer of glue. No booster is allowed. Well, ITTF has done nothing in that area. that's why it is a grey area.

5) I don't plan to compete in any ITTF competition soon so I am boosting my rubber.

6) No need to apply a layer of glue before applying the booster. I don't know why applying a layer of glue would be helpful. H3 neo comes out of the package with a layer of glue already (you can tell when you peel off the sheet).

As I am also pretty much of a newby, I do not know if oil-based booster came in AFTER ITTF banned speed glue , or if it was around before the ban as well.
Making rules is actually very difficult process. When rule-making is left to amateurs one gets things like the existing rule, a "blanket ban of any interference with the rubbers after they leave the factories."
What they should do is a new rule that declares that any interference with the rubbers is permitted as long as it does not constitute a health hazard and is within the other rules re rubbers.
But then """"what the fu%^&**k do I know 😁

P.S. Speedglue is still available, I got a nice blue bottle full at home.
of course i never use it on the rubbers, I just like to occasionally have a sniff

 

[JJ Ng]

As I am also pretty much of a newby, I do not know if oil-based booster came in AFTER ITTF banned speed glue , or if it was around before the ban as well.
Making rules is actually very difficult process. When rule-making is left to amateurs one gets things like the existing rule, a "blanket ban of any interference with the rubbers after they leave the factories."
What they should do is a new rule that declares that any interference with the rubbers is permitted as long as it does not constitute a health hazard and is within the other rules re rubbers.
But then """"what the fu%^&**k do I know 😁

P.S. Speedglue is still available, I got a nice blue bottle full at home.
of course i never use it on the rubbers, I just like to occasionally have a sniff

Lol, you are funny about sniffing the speed glue.

I never speed glued my rubber. I do have a couple Mark V 1.5mm sponge lying around. Lol, maybe I will speed glue them and see how they play!

Yes, boosting only came after the speed glue ban.

Yes, I agree if the health hazard is not being affected, people can do whatever they want with the rubber.

I just do feel that these pre-tuned tensor rubber is really much on the borderline as well. It is kind of unreasonable to say that the factor can boost their rubber all they want before the rubber is shipped out but once it is shipped out, boosting at home is illegal. Sounds just like a great way to make more money to me!!!

 

[brokenball]

Boosting is a waste of time. It is better to practice, practice, practice. What does one expect to achieve while boosting? More speed? More spin? How do you know? How much does boosting increase the tangential and normal COR? If boosting does make a difference you must adapt to the changes. Boosting doesn't last that long. If you can adapt to the changes then you can adapt to changes between different types of rubber.
I don't believe there is such a thing a pre-boosted rubbers. The gases would equalize with the ambient air pressure before you open the package.
Think about it!

 

[ben1229]

Hello,

so i recently started playing with tacky chinese rubbers, and i really really enjoy them, so i bought haifu regular booster for it.

Now there are a lot of youtube videos about how to apply booster, but i find them very confusing because the different ways.


Do i apply one glue layer and then apply thin booster, or do i apply booster directly to the sponge?

What difference does it make to playing characteristics and the lasting of the booster?

I always thought it was directly applying but maybe that just breaks the rubber faster??

Need a layer of glue, it's to protect the rubber, new h3 rubber already came with one layer of glue, second time boost better put one layer of glue , cause booster will damage rubber. Booster boost sponges not rubber.

 

[Scarfed Garchomp]

Post #4

Are you aware of the existence and content of post #1?

 

[lodro]

Sounds just like a great way to make more money to me!!!

and you might find that this is one of the reasons why the ITTF made this rule.
The other being the Illusion of then being in total control. Well, that one surely went right down the shit hole 😂😂😂

 

[lodro]

Need a layer of glue, it's to protect the rubber, new h3 rubber already came with one layer of glue, second time boost better put one layer of glue , cause booster will damage rubber. Booster boost sponges not rubber.

Cobblers !
In order to boost the sponge the booster oil must be able to penetrate the sponge.
If a layer of glue is supposed to protect the rubber how come the booster still goes into the sponge.
What really damages the sponge AND the rubber is the application of too much
booster, this will soak the sponge and at least locally might seep through to the rubber.

 

[Topspinslinger]

Boosting is a waste of time. It is better to practice, practice, practice. What does one expect to achieve while boosting? More speed? More spin? How do you know? How much does boosting increase the tangential and normal COR? If boosting does make a difference you must adapt to the changes. Boosting doesn't last that long. If you can adapt to the changes then you can adapt to changes between different types of rubber.
I don't believe there is such a thing a pre-boosted rubbers. The gases would equalize with the ambient air pressure before you open the package.
Think about it!

I just want to try out the difference between boosted and non boosted.
Also, a large amount of rubbers are pre-boosted. It isn't about believing it is just fact, you can ask the companies and they'll tell you they "factory treated" the rubber.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Need a layer of glue, it's to protect the rubber, new h3 rubber already came with one layer of glue, second time boost better put one layer of glue , cause booster will damage rubber. Booster boost sponges not rubber.

Best response to OP so far.

 

[blahness]

Over here there's a shop who has made a business out of boosting rubbers for busy ppl for $5 each lol. I was thinking of that and imo Dignics quickly becomes a cheaper proposition.

 

[igorponger]

Why do some people need viagra a lot ?

This is a Prodigy Italiano who never needs booster for playing the game. Yes, intellectually gifted players feel pretty good without booster, and the mediocre always seeking for some erective enhancer, booster and the suchlike.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Why do some people need viagra a lot ?

This is a Prodigy Italiano who never needs booster for playing the game. Yes, intellectually gifted players feel pretty good without booster, and the mediocre always seeking for some erective enhancer, booster and the suchlike.

haha, nice prodigy you got there.
seems like he doesn't have knee caps