WTT Singapore Smash 2024 3/7-3/17

[NextLevel]

Please. Go look up their world ranking at the start and end of the race. This is wasting my time. If anything, it's Ito who has not been keeping up.

The selection race officially started after Zennihon Takkyu 2022, 1/24-30 and ended after Zennihon Takkyu 2024, 1/22-28
Initial points from 2020 were reduced to 20% from 1/2022 onward, and 0% from 5/2022 onward
ITTF TTWR 2022/2/1, 2022/5/3, 2024/1/30
Ito 3 (4 events), 6 (5), 10 (10)
Hayata 6 (6 events), 5 (7), 5 (17)
Hirano 15 (4 events), 44 (5), 18 (11)
Kihara 52 (3 events), 15 (6), 25 (13)
Nagasaki 67 (2 events), 96 (5), 26 (12)
Harimoto unranked (624 as of 2022/3/15), 71 (4), 16 (14)

How does any of this explain how PDR kept Hirano from improving her ranking and how does this explain why she cannot be seeded when people like Hayata, Ito and Harimoto can be and and are? You are the one wasting time by continually defending someone with an argument that absolves her of any responsibility for her ranking.

She will get her chance against Hayata. And at the next few events as well.

 

[zeio]

YXX barely escaped. Other than HY, she is the only European consistently true to her ranking without continental points. And if she has trouble here, I don't feel confident about the others.

WS R64
WR169 vs WR13/12th seed
S. Mukherjee 0-1 -> 1-1 -> 1-2 -> 2-2 YXX
G5 14, 24, 25, 45 TO for YXX, 48, 58, 59, 510, 1010, 1012

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-be-revamped-for-paris-2024.24977/post-446298

CIC, Diaz, Szocs, YXX et. al. all face the same pressure as SYB in saving their positions, and they will have to face Hayata, Ito, Harimoto and perhaps even Kihara. It will come down to the draw. HY won't be back at least until World Cup 2024, so she is out of the equation and will consider herself lucky to be able to make it in time for Paris 2024.

Given the poor luck of Tasei and Oh Kwanghun at WTTC 2024, Watanabe could be the biggest obstacle to Hirano. The big question now is whether JNT will make use of team order when the poor draw of WTT CS Frankfurt 2023 happens again.

 

[zeio]

How does any of this explain how PRC kept Hirano from improving her ranking and how does this explain why she cannot be seeded when people like Hayata, Ito and Harimoto can be and and are? You are the one wasting time by continually defending someone with an argument that absolves her of any responsibility for her ranking.

She will get her chance against Hayata. And at the next few events as well.

Stop wasting my time. Answer the question. Why did WTT suspend PDR for WTT CT and SCT until Paris 2024?

 

[NextLevel]

Stop wasting my time. Answer the question. Why did WTT suspend PDR for WTT CT and SCT until Paris 2024?

To give players in the top 20 as many chances as possible to play as many events as they can to build up their rankings for the Olympics cycle. To avoid national associations who host events using those events selectively to manipulate the rankings of players.

 

[zeio]

It took me a good while to dig out. Hirano once signed up for WTT FEE Olomouc 2022 but her WR, 18, was inside top 30 at that point and the PDR kicked in.

Hirano's name was on the list before being taken off
https://weibo.com/6320391439/M0h3Dvrab?refer_flag=1001030103_
https://jtta.or.jp/tour/7144

https://wttwebcmsprod.blob.core.win...TT_Series & Feeder_Handbook_2022_20220304.pdf

2.3 WTT Feeder Series Top 50 Play Down Restrictions (PDR)
Singles events
Players inside the Top 30 of the ITTF TTWR, at the time of the entry deadline, are not permitted to
participate in WTT Feeder Series events. However, a maximum of two (2) players will be permitted to
participate if they are from the LOC host Member Association as a direct entry.
Host Wildcards can be used only for players outside the Top 30 of the ITTF TTWR. WTT Nominations are
excluded from the WTT Feeder Series Play Down Restriction Rule.
A maximum of six (6) players ranked between 31 and 50 in the ITTF TTWR, at the time of the entry deadline,
may participate in WTT Feeder Series events with priority given to players from the host Member
Association.

 

[mikeytt]

Gerassimenko continuing his good form from world championships, close game against Lin yun ju at the moment

 

[NextLevel]

It took me a good while to dig out. Hirano once signed up for WTT FEE Olomouc 2022 but her WR, 18, was inside top 30 at that point and the PDR kicked in.

Hirano's name was on the list before being taken off
https://weibo.com/6320391439/M0h3Dvrab?refer_flag=1001030103_
https://jtta.or.jp/tour/7144

https://wttwebcmsprod.blob.core.windows.net/technicaldocuments/WTT_Series & Feeder_Handbook_2022_20220304.pdf

I don't think top 20 players are allowed to play feeder events unless they are citizens of the host country. But who knows, WTT may have changed their rules back then...

For me, there are more than enough issues between injury and underperformance to make these PDR claims moot, that said, let's hope you are right for Hirano's sake. The problem she has now is nothing she couldn't have solved with some better performances in the tournaments she actually played in, and she has a great chance to fix it in the upcoming months.

PS: just read the part you posted that said the same thing. So Feeder events are not the problem since just about all her teammates can't play them either.

 

[OvrChkn]

Akula playing outstanding in Game 4

 

[NextLevel]

Wang Manyu doesn't like curry - but I suspect she will pull through as always, her backhand topspin is really too good to be struggling like this against pips.

 

[zeio]

WS R64
S. Akula 0-1 -> 1-1 -> 1-2 -> 2-2 -> 2-3 WMY
G5 03, 43, 47, 57, 58, 88 BH corner edge for Akula, 811

 

[SFF_lib]

Akula's performance is amazing for her age 👍

WMY has proven that she's just as dependable as the top 2

 

[zeio]

Akula's performance is amazing for her age 👍

WMY has proven that she's just as dependable as the top 2

SYS & WYD: Sample size is absurdly small

 

[SFF_lib]

SYS & WYD: Sample size is absurdly small

We can grow the sample size by compiling all their matches 😆

 

[zeio]

First casualty (seeded player out).

WS R64
WR16/15th seed vs WR78
Mittelham 2-0 -> 2-3 Shao Jieni
G3 1012
G4 911
G5 01, 11, 13 TO for Mittelham, 64, 74, 711, 7 in a row

Yellow card
https://youtu.be/BtlEbwl6xkw?t=13020
Physical assault 1
https://youtu.be/BtlEbwl6xkw?t=14151
Physical assault 2
https://youtu.be/BtlEbwl6xkw?t=14169

YXX barely escaped. Other than HY, she is the only European consistently true to her ranking without continental points. And if she has trouble here, I don't feel confident about the others.

WS R64
WR169 vs WR13/12th seed
S. Mukherjee 0-1 -> 1-1 -> 1-2 -> 2-2 YXX
G5 14, 24, 25, 45 TO for YXX, 48, 58, 59, 510, 1010, 1012

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-be-revamped-for-paris-2024.24977/post-446298

 

[turbozed]

SYS & WYD: Sample size is absurdly small

Yes ignore actually engaging in a discussion with me and keep making snide posts instead like a middle school girl. Seriously, you are a child.

 

[turbozed]

No it wasn't my argument. It was a quote about a completely different issue that you bizarrely pulled out of nowhere out of context.

Let me remind you of the context. You said that Hayata would never beat SYS ever because she just lost in the 5th game by 2 points, despite SYS benefitting from a few edge/net balls. I said it wasn't impossible even if implied odds were 80% in favor of SYS that Hayata would win eventually, and that a sample size of 12 was pretty small to be fatalistic about things. It's pretty much the equivalent of rolling a dice 12 times and it never landing on a certain number.

Instead of responding directly to this, and having a discussion like an adult about it you've chosen to ignore the issue entirely then bring out the quote in a snide way out of context.

Why do this? I make a living predicting future events using statistics. If you have some secret knowledge that is counter to basic math and our understanding of reality, then I'd love to hear it. I'll give you one last chance. We can have a long discussion about this now. Otherwise stop being a child and drop it. It's annoying and makes you look silly.

@zeio heres my response if you haven't seen it yet. Let's have a discussion.

 

[zeio]

Yes ignore actually engaging in a discussion with me and keep making snide posts instead like a middle school girl. Seriously, you are a child.

Stop wasting my time. Go tell KNT that the stats were compiled with an absurdly small sample size.

 

[Emin]

Lin Shidong looking Solid.
In good body Form, Gameplay looking good,
And most importantly,
he got that former LJK,
Kakadu Haircut.

 

[zeio]

WS R64
SYB 3-0 LHC
G1 111
G2 107, 109 TO for SYB, 1010, 1210
G3 30 TO for LHC, 31, 41, 44, 94, 95, 105, 106, 116

MS R64
Duda 2-0 -> 3-2 Freitas
Gauzy 0-2 -> 2-3 Franziska

WS R64
Hayata 0-3 Hirano
G1 33, 47, 77, 79 dead net for Hirano, 89, 811
G2 01 Hayata served into the net, 11, 12, 42, 43, 53, 55, 75, 76 Hayata served off the table, 77, 87, 89 TO for Hayata, 99 Hayata served reverse pendulum, 910 half-dead net for Hirano, 1010, 1011 Hayata served reverse pendulum and got loopkilled by Hirano, 1111, 1113 half-dead net for Hirano
This Hirano is clearly different. Her FH/BH shot quality is no joke.
G3 01, 11, 12 Hayata served off the table, 42, 44, 54, 59, 79, 711

 

[turbozed]

Stop wasting my time. Go tell KNT that the stats were compiled with an absurdly small sample size.

Wasting your time? You're the one bizarrely holding a grudge from several months ago from a normal discussion that you decided to disengage from (ostensibly, since you didn't have any real point to make). It's incredibly obnoxious for you to bring it up again randomly with snide remarks later on and then run away like a coward from any meaningful discussion. If you don't want to waste both of our time, then simply stop doing it. I just want to enjoy browsing and conversing on this board without having to deal with an obessive weirdo dragging me back into a unfinished discussion from ages ago whenever I visit a WTT thread.

Honestly, I'd think it was extremely sad for you to get so triggered by a banal discussion about sample sizes that you've been stewing for months on it waiting for opportunities to take random jabs about it. At the same time we all know you to be the type guy to obsessively catalogue every little detail about Japanese female players, then rage out when something happens that doesn't suit your taste. It's incredibly creepy and obsessive for you to be so denigrating to some players (many who are kids or just a few years removed from being kid) when they lose matches and be so indignant when your current favorite isn't getting treated the way you think they should.

You can have a shrine to your favorite JNT women's player at the moment and spend evenings throwing darts at a picture of Hina Hayata for all I care. Whatever floats your boat. Just don't go dragging other forum members into your bizarre obsesssion because they disagreed with one of your unhinged takes at some point in time. I certainly don't want any part of that. So do me a favor and drop the issue and move on.