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Which is faster, H3 Neo or Big Dipper?
Not tried Big Dipper, but from what I have read, it appears to be the H3 Neo.
From my experience, most players and coaches do think that using the legs is important. There's a lot of talk about weight transfer. But there seems to be some confusion as to how it's done and over emphasis that one should "use" the wrist, forearm etc. Maybe it's just a language problem and I've been misinterpreting. Maybe they assume that because they are using their legs properly that the player they're trying to help is doing the same. Or in some cases, maybe they're not seeing it?
Even when I knew what to do and saw myself on video, I still couldn't figure out many things until quite recently. It's possible, for example, to be rotating your waist without using your legs and you can still get good power and spin that way. But I think it's even more efficient to be using your dominant leg to push the ground to drive the rotation. It's a very subtle distinction. It's also not just pushing with the legs, on most shots you need to also fold your torso/bend at the hip (more so against heavy backspin).
In this video I'm trying to push with my dominant leg, using mostly my quad and glute to push off and put my body into rotation:
In this video I'm mostly rotating my waist and not pushing the ground:
Unfortunately you can't see my feet much, maybe you can still see it? Since changing my focus to the technique in the first video (pushing with my dominant leg), my FH has become more stable and efficient. I've been making some more small adjustments since then.
I think quite a few coaches coach the arm structure of the shots rather than how to get the arm moving efficiently by using the body. When a coach now tells me to "use more wrist" I instead think they mean to let my arm backswing in such a way that will get my wrist moving more on the forward swing. I used to think that I was supposed to consciously whip my wrist or when told to use more forearm to tense my forearm muscles.
In the right context this advice can be helpful, but it can be difficult sometimes if you're inclined to take the advice literally like I often did.
Brett Clarke helped me realize much of this and a lot of practice, shadow play and visualization helped my technique tremendously. I recommend checking his work out, he's truly a world class coach.
Thanks for your comment, always happy to hear your feedback! Yeah, you're right. And my non-playing hand has always been awkward, in my older videos I have it completely down by my side and it looked very awkward, I've been trying to fix it by raising it to keep the balance a bit better. But yes, the non-playing hand should move first on the forward swing.It seems in the more recent video you are more relaxed, while getting the same power transmitted as before (if not more). I bet you feel this too, and that reinforces your relaxation
I am not really in a position to give you advice, so forgive the following I think you could concentrate a bit more on your non-playing hand. I'm trying that too. It helps to properly rotate and go down before the forward movement starts, and also it is a good check-point when the forward movement starts - I mean to notice that the non-playing hand starts to move (not of itself, but because it is part (end actually) of the chain) *before* the playing hand starts to move. You know the secondary acceleration as mentioned on the forum some time ago.
I was rotating like a madman to get more power in the second video and I'm seeing a physiotherapist as I did get some problems with my right hip from around this time lol, I can't remember it feeling strained but it wasn't good. So yes - you are correct!I just watched the two YT video posted by Richie. Between the two, my preference is the first one. Richie has a more pronounced whipping motion and he looks more mechanically stable and less jarring on his back. Richie, if you are still on this thread, I bet you felt more strained during second video, am I right?
Also, the first video, the ball trajectory is more stable and natural vis-a-vis the second which looks more forced.
Not tried Big Dipper, but from what I have read, it appears to be the H3 Neo.
Yes. That's correct. Big Dipper is slower and softer, and gives you better control but still really good spin.
Also from your Richie’s “source”, I found a backhand break-down explanation as well. It’s crazy. I’ve been practising this order for a week but not in this details and systemics. Highly recommended! I have to say thanks twice. You are Der_Etche 2.0 for me.
I honestly feel like I'm just plagiarizing Brett Clarke's work so all the credit should go to him. I really recommend checking his stuff out. He has a video of me where he helped improve my FH against backspin.
Brett is awesome. I agree that people should spend the time seeing the stuff he presents because it is great info.I honestly feel like I'm just plagiarizing Brett Clarke's work so all the credit should go to him. I really recommend checking his stuff out. He has a video of me where he helped improve my FH against backspin.
I think this video of Li Sun bolsters your main point above:From my experience, most players and coaches do think that using the legs is important. There's a lot of talk about weight transfer. But there seems to be some confusion as to how it's done and over emphasis that one should "use" the wrist, forearm etc. Maybe it's just a language problem and I've been misinterpreting. Maybe they assume that because they are using their legs properly that the player they're trying to help is doing the same. Or in some cases, maybe they're not seeing it?
Even when I knew what to do and saw myself on video, I still couldn't figure out many things until quite recently. It's possible, for example, to be rotating your waist without using your legs and you can still get good power and spin that way. But I think it's even more efficient to be using your dominant leg to push the ground to drive the rotation. It's a very subtle distinction. It's also not just pushing with the legs, on most shots you need to also fold your torso/bend at the hip (more so against heavy backspin).
So in plain English, what does that mean? Does it mean one starts with the leg and then the waist turns, or is it simultaneous, or does the waist (move first) lead the feet?Current players should proactively use their legs to support the rotation of waist, legs work against the reaction force from waist..
So in plain English, what does that mean? Does it mean one starts with the leg and then the waist turns, or is it simultaneous, or does the waist (move first) lead the feet?
It means: waist leading the feet is the outdated way. Turning waist, and at the same time legs support waist turning.