San Francisco looking for training partner.

[riemsesy]

the seal blade doesn't glue as good and the chance of rubber come off is signfantly higher. I have a sealer and done that crap before. I still use sealer if i chip my blade, i'll fix it with wood filler and seal that particular part let it dry for a day and sand it down.

What a nonsense
When you seal the blade you apply a fragile layer, and when dry you roughen it with 240 grid sandpaper on a sanding block. And you do it by hand... Then after glueing the rubber, it won't come off EVER.

And then again... you apply a layer of glue and let it DRY.. before you attach the rubber.
The one thing that kills the blade is hitting the edge of the table more times then you like, or throwing the blade at your opponent, because he uses a 3 times boosted H3N.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

You've been oscillating between 2050-2150 for the past 5 years. You also have been very adamant about ESN being trash for at least several years. So at what point did you commit to DHS/Butterfly?

Going from 2000 to 2200 in 6 years, with the majority of that 6 years being spent in the 2050-2150 range, and then only recently going up that final 50 points, doesn't really paint the picture of a commitment to equipment leading to a massive change in level.

All that being said, I actually agree with the central point. Equipment does matter. Even moreso at higher levels. People on forums oftentimes downplay that. But it's weird to make a thread that was clearly a humblebrag and disguise it as an equipment discussion.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

The pro's equipment is different than what you can buy for those esn junk. BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)

Many Butterfly pros do get custom rubbers that aren't available to the public, just like top ESN pros do too.

There are also a lot of pros, both ESN and Butterfly sponsored, that do use the same stuff sold to the public.

 

[piligrim]

The only difference I see is tattoo ))

 

[mcfly]

speaking about rating
i remember one US Open, there was a guy from Ukraine entered as 1000 rating or something like that. He played a lot of low rated events and won quite a few matches

he eventually played the 2500 final against Samson Dubina

the next day he was told that his 1000 rating is not correct and they somehow adjusted his rating to… 2500-something, meaning he could only play U2600 or the Open event

 

[mcfly]

Many Butterfly pros do get custom rubbers that aren't available to the public, just like top ESN pros do too.

There are also a lot of pros, both ESN and Butterfly sponsored, that do use the same stuff sold to the public.

the sponsored player equipment is different. i’ve tried Eugene Wang’s 968 and it was night and day comparing to mine

 

[ThePongCommenter]

the sponsored player equipment is different. i’ve tried Eugene Wang’s 968 and it was night and day comparing to mine

Yeah, the sponsored version 968s are night and day. So are some of the Butterfly rubbers. I'm not sure about Timo specifically but I know his blade is custom and I'd imagine his rubbers are tuned to his preferred exact hardness, and probably selected for weight as well.

Of course he will say in his videos that he is using what everyone else uses - its in his best interests financially for Butterfly to get more sales...

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Yeah, the sponsored version 968s are night and day. So are some of the Butterfly rubbers. I'm not sure about Timo specifically but I know his blade is custom and I'd imagine his rubbers are tuned to his preferred exact hardness, and probably selected for weight as well.

Of course he will say in his videos that he is using what everyone else uses - its in his best interests financially for Butterfly to get more sales...

Top pro have these privilege, but a lot of CNT 2nd teams or non famous players BTY rubber is just off the rack. Euguene wang w968 might be w968 and also he knwos how to boost whiel most player don't. As i said, most of my chinese coach paddle is up to the T in terms of playability, only fellow clubmate paddles can be wacky especially lower rated players.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

I feel like rating and skill level needs to be posted as an option near the name tag. We have these wacky ass garage player giving advice ruining people's rubber and paddle wasting their time and money.

 

[Tyce]

I feel like rating and skill level needs to be posted as an option near the name tag. We have these wacky ass garage player giving advice ruining people's rubber and paddle wasting their time and money.

Honestly, rating just says something about how good a person can play. There might be a correlation with understanding materials, but there's no guarantee.

There's also a correlation between clickbait topics titles in mostly caps and bullsh*t information.

I think people who continuously keep boasting about their rating, and repeatedly bringing up derogatory comments in an attempt to get their point across, rather than actually engage in a conversation by reacting constructively to points others make, might benefit from a good hard look in the mirror.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I feel like rating and skill level needs to be posted as an option near the name tag. We have these wacky ass garage player giving advice ruining people's rubber and paddle wasting their time and money.

Im going to copy Aruna and start calling you Hobby Player from now on

 

[JJ Ng]

I feel like rating and skill level needs to be posted as an option near the name tag. We have these wacky ass garage player giving advice ruining people's rubber and paddle wasting their time and money.

I did not want to respond but I will respond anyway.

I respect your playing level. I started playing on and off since I was 13. I trained with other junior players before. Some were more talented than others (I am in the latter camp). Some spent more time training while others had to study to get into university/law school/medical school/business school.

Therefore to reach 2000 level is definitely a big accomplishment. Reaching 2200 level is even more impressive!

However this thread is turning into who has a bigger d*ck, if you know what I mean.

I propose that TTD forum should put an option near the name tag about what car we drive (the more exotic the better), what our annual salary is and what our net worth is. If we are going to compare d*ck, we might as well compare what really matters in life: success.

 

[passifid]

How do we.work out our rating level to post?

Do I have to go to America or since this is a UK site do you have to get nationally ranked here.

I think my ranking is a small casserole

 

[disaster3]

In terms of player’s equipment as mentioned recently I started playing with guy who has some connection in one of the Chinese TT club and gets some limited stuffs. Some of those are Ma Long version W968 no 2 and Q968 no 1. He was waiting for each around a year to get it but they are different than National Commercial version ( all numbers above 8), the categories are that player version numbers 1-3 are top notch made and glued (special glue is used and the proces is different of assembling it) manually with the best and 1 piece of wood, version 4-8 are also good but may differ in terms of wood it is still high quality but may be not from the same 1 piece. All of above 8+ are National Commercial for selling.

Not sure how much truth is in above but this is what I was told. And yes had a chance to play with his q968 (no 1) and it looks and feels a bit different than my #013.

Maybe @Tony's Table Tennis or someone else who are close to clubs and all what is happening in pros area may or not confirm/deny above.

I have not got such knowledge just mentioned what I was heard about all those w968/q958/s968 player edition and numbers

 

[lodro]

How do we.work out our rating level to post?

Do I have to go to America or since this is a UK site do you have to get nationally ranked here.

I think my ranking is a small casserole

You're doing real well then, my ranking would be just a hotdog. 😁
But really, how can anybody
go on and wank themselves about any level of american table tennis ? It is just not cool.
I have only ever seen 1 single person that was american and could properly play and that was Forrest Gump. No really, I have seen it on TV, that guy took on the chinese players and kicked their arse. 😂

 

[mcfly]

You're doing real well then, my ranking would be just a hotdog. 😁
But really, how can anybody
go on and wank themselves about any level of american table tennis ? It is just not cool.
I have only ever seen 1 single person that was american and could properly play and that was Forrest Gump. No really, I have seen it on TV, that guy took on the chinese players and kicked their arse. 😂

nah... only Lieutenant Dan can kick FG's ass

 

[Lazer]

It’s just a number, ratings are different in all countries. In Sweden I think the absolute maximum points you can get is 2500, then everything else is adjusted from that… We normally start anywhere 400 - 700. The coach decides this. And it will take a few years for the rating to normalize to a justifiable level.

2000 in this country is different from 2000 in that country…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Lazer]

As far as reboosting goes I never do it I just adjust to the different characteristics and change about every 6 months. The only reason being I think it’s a huge pain. Since H3 is climate dependent and I need to deal with this. As a matter of fact a fresh H3 is more climate dependent than an older one.

Anyway some adjustments are ALWAYS needed.

Cheers
L-zr

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

How do we.work out our rating level to post?

Do I have to go to America or since this is a UK site do you have to get nationally ranked here.

I think my ranking is a small casserole

well, I need to open up and be honest with you all.
every 10kg gain, I need to divide my rating by 2.
I think that is a fair calculation for me

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

In terms of player’s equipment as mentioned recently I started playing with guy who has some connection in one of the Chinese TT club and gets some limited stuffs. Some of those are Ma Long version W968 no 2 and Q968 no 1. He was waiting for each around a year to get it but they are different than National Commercial version ( all numbers above 8), the categories are that player version numbers 1-3 are top notch made and glued (special glue is used and the proces is different of assembling it) manually with the best and 1 piece of wood, version 4-8 are also good but may differ in terms of wood it is still high quality but may be not from the same 1 piece. All of above 8+ are National Commercial for selling.

Not sure how much truth is in above but this is what I was told. And yes had a chance to play with his q968 (no 1) and it looks and feels a bit different than my #013.

Maybe @Tony's Table Tennis or someone else who are close to clubs and all what is happening in pros area may or not confirm/deny above.

I have not got such knowledge just mentioned what I was heard about all those w968/q958/s968 player edition and numbers

DHS is a total different beast when comes to blades.

you firstly have commericial blades and then non commericial blades.
you can buy national commericial blades, but DHS will openly deny such blades exists in the market.
they said they only have 1 x W968, while sellers in China are selling commericial provincial/national versions for example. DHS will say these are lies.

Then you have players edition that are not commericial
then you have customized editions, which normally would have the intended players name on there (and that player doesn't need to be DHS sponsored)

Regarding the hobby player comment above about CNT 2 players using off the rack. Well, they are a lot more privileged than hobby players can think. That I can assure you of!

as far as TTD and interested parties is concern, the quality is just better, thus better consistency for example.
some players could ask for certain changes, and DHS could do it for you. But that doesn't mean it will suit him or her or me or you.