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Nah, his FH is just bad. He obviously spent a lot of time trying to make his RPB good but this was at the expense of his FH training, and his RPB is still quite a bit worse than the shakehand BH especially in terms of stability.

This is why I think that RPB is quite useless at the amateur level and one would play better with LP on the other side and learning to use LP to disrupt the opponent to then finish them off with FH loopkill. LP also makes them almost immune in serve receive while retaining most of the inverted benefits (really deceptive serves + penhold 3rd ball)

When I was using double inverted I was never afraid of the RPB penholders because of their weak FH, plus I was always better in the BH-BH diagonal anyways. The worst thing is that they were always bad at defending heavy topspin with RPB inverted which is a huge problem.
I'll have to disagree about this.

When you are up against people much better than yourselves, it really doesn't matter if you play LP or not. GJV is exactly that here. The guy is able to mix his serve really well and with good speed and placement too. I imagine he'd still mess around with the LP player, perhaps will make him look even worse than the penhold guy.

His fh looks bad because he's just up against GJV. As you can see, his FH was solid enough he could play for a while with GJV.
 
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I'll have to disagree about this.

When you are up against people much better than yourselves, it really doesn't matter if you play LP or not. GJV is exactly that here. The guy is able to mix his serve really well and with good speed and placement too. I imagine he'd still mess around with the LP player, perhaps will make him look even worse than the penhold guy.

His fh looks bad because he's just up against GJV. As you can see, his FH was solid enough he could play for a while with GJV.
Lol no... OP serve is quite basic tbh and doesnt have advanced deception other than leaving his free arm out to hide the ball aka cheating.

some of the LP/inverted combo penholders circle have wins over national team players even as amateurs. OP or his friend will never get to that level in their lifetimes.

Anyway i'm pretty bored about this thread so Im out of here
 
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By the way, this is just a practice match, right? Cause none of you look like a USATT 2200.
The rallies look very simple which is fine but the penholder’s fh is so inconsistent that it hurts to watch. Like why tf would you hit the ball randomly upward close to the table during a normal rally? And this happens waaay too many times.
Not to mention the terrible serve receives on both sides. Like they missed or popped the ball up or down in the net at every second serve.
As the op said, the serves were relatively ok (at least from the camera’s angle) but the height of the throw is questionable on both ends.
It didn’t seem like they hid the ball since none of them said a word about it, I think they’re just that bad at receiving.
I guess they couldn’t get into the “zone”. Maybe need more warmup or somesh
 
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Recently i bought a haifu black from the chinese dealer white package and purple top simliar looking at what pong professor is using


Few things, it's either fake/commerical because the oil is a lot less dense and less dark compare to my friend's haifu black old version. My conclusion of the booster is similar to what pong professor's statement, it's weak and kind a garbage. However, my friend's haifu black which is similar to what prott.vip is selling https://prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=HFNatOil with the yellow cap is very different. The effect is amazing and a lot more power.

Just want it point it out so people don't just buy the commerical version of haifu black and waste their time and $$$


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but the prott link shows the purple cap and not yellow cap? so how to tell the difference between commercial and the national black oil? if the prott one is real then national is also purple cap
 
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I have used the normal Sea moon, national white, and national black haifu oils with H3. The sea moon and white oil soften the sponge too much for my liking, and expand the sponge a lot more than the black oil. The resulting rubbers play differently obviously, but I would say which one is best depends on your taste tbh.
 
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I have used the normal Sea moon, national white, and national black haifu oils with H3. The sea moon and white oil soften the sponge too much for my liking, and expand the sponge a lot more than the black oil. The resulting rubbers play differently obviously, but I would say which one is best depends on your taste tbh.
Was there a big difference in the catapult effect?
 
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@mcfly & @Jan_

I have removed your posts where you are going at each other because the argument was pointless.

I am going to suggest you each avoid the other at least for the next few weeks. If I do see another instance of you two making personal attacks at each other, I will just give you a few weeks off from the forum.
 
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Lol. My heavy Fzd alc makes me feel like the guy WHO open the thread.
I win with top 3 in the league WHO plays for money everyday but I dominate him... The funny part is...I didnt play too much because I dont have time and I was out of shape and I loose 4 matches with 4th league players in tournament, when I AM around 50%+ in 2nd division, and then glue FZD Alc and beat the guy WHO is 90%
 
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