San Francisco looking for training partner.

[mcfly]

I think that $1000s spent on coaching that not mentioned much was at least as important as the golden Vis. A suitable paddle is important, but not hugely important for most U2000 (or even U2200) players from the point of an EJ. All $100+ blades work fine for most levels, maybe rubbers are more important, but any D or T rubbers work great for most players too.

up to 2200, you just need a good enough equipment.
in 2300 territory, when your skill and game need fine tuning, then the equipment plays a bigger part.
equipment meaning boosting, glue, the selection of wood and handle, the specific weigh and the consistency of your main and backup blade and of course rubbers.

once you've mastered all of that, then just focus on training.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

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I'm WR #3 and ain't need no tacky rubbah! I've got my Xiom with me all the way, bruh!

Hugo:
but I need extra hard sponge and extra tacky on the top sheet please

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)

maybe

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

For most amateurs, I think 2300 2400 is probably the limit. It does not matter what you use, you just can't beat a professional without systematic training.

Since engaging with a kid with USATT rating and seeing him grow from 1600~2000, maybe 2100 now.
and seeing Sally and Darryl train when they back in Taiwan,
and Jessica Reyes-Lai who goes and just makes the USA women's team.
and 4 random high school kids (who are not junior team level) goes and beat 2400 players in the US Open.
I am trying to grasp Taiwan's level to that of USATT
I would agree 2400 + requires systematic training since young.

There are few cases of exceptions, but majority is probably true.
Some cases with rich folks buying resources for growth, I see them hit sub 2400 limit too.
so its not just everyone can go beyond that

 

[zeio]

The pro's equipment is different than what you can buy for those esn junk. BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)

The People of Honesty didn't seem to think so (see bottom link). But aside from that, Dignics and Tenergy are still better than their recent ESN counterparts in terms of weight-to-performance ratio. D05 and T05 are much lighter but still come out on top or hold their own in bounce and spin.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/timo-boll-how-i-glue.23943/post-322192

 

[God-scrubplayer]

for me it's really not looking like it has anything to do with equipment. based on the video you are way less rushed, you prepare your serves and your way of receive serves better. you have a better strategy, placement and the right footwork for the next shot combined. this made you a better player. i think you could beat your old 2000 rated self with some random bat with random grippy rubbers now. a coach of mine beat some good players with an iphone. that was quite fun to watch

but i agree with @Tony's Table Tennis that staying with equipment you feel comfortable with and just concentrate on training is something that lead you to be a consistent player, too.

But the single biggest contributor to my level is equipment. Going on an EJ journey has hinder my ability to break 2200 for years. If i just play h3 FH, T05/D05/D09c bh and don't go those stupid EJ crap with xiom, weird custom blades etc.... i would hit 2200 much much much earlier.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Scrolling through a bunch of post i saw people mentioning about reboosting their h3...... please for the love of god DO NOT do it. My chinese coaches in bay are who doesn't train have their h3 on for 1 year + and it still plays good (they don't train anymore so they don't bubble it) Their physilophy is the same, play till your rubber bubble, if it doesn't bubble it STAYS THE F**** ON THE PADDLE. Once the rubber leave the paddle it belongs into the trashcan.


DO NOT reboost your rubber. Once you boost your rubber and stick it on the paddle. ONLY take the rubber off if you are changing new rubber and that's it. DO NOT fking ej around this ej around that thinking reboosting is going to be better this and better that and fk up everything. I've done this whole 9 miles.

On the side note: If you felt it's too "hard" fine... go boost more because you havent found your boost formula. However, if you boosted properly and it felt great. then don't "犯贱" and take rubber off and reboost it cuz why not. If you felt the rubber is dead or whatever then just change to new rubber.

This is a vid of former CTN

he basically said the same thing as i did. You boost once, play it till you bubble or want to change rubber and that's it. The rubber STAYS on the paddle for the lifespan.

For people who wanna know why?
1. If you take rubber off, the rubber shrinks and make it impossible to align it perfectly like you once did.
2. Shrinking rubber != rubber become harder, so reboosting it will simply soften the rubber and make it even more dead
3. Your paddle have a life span too, the more you put waterbase glue on your paddle the softer it becomes. So to preserve the lifespan of your racket, glue rubber on it as little times as possible.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Hmm. Ive reboosted many times, never had problem

 

[longle]

I also like to reboost frequently because peeling off the old glue is fun gotta put some restrains..

 

[doppelmoral]

nah, its personal preference, If I reboost my h3 after using it for 2 months it feels much nicer

 

[CEYMS]

Loosely related question - trying hurricane 3 neo tomorrow. If I hate it can I take it off and “store” it for another time when I perhaps feel like trying it again or maybe have moved on to a quicker blade. Will this damage the rubber at all?

 

[Zwill]

I think there is more of an expansion issue with H3 rather than shrinking. If you take off and reboost it will become bigger than before so aligning is not a huge issue.
I think the bigger issue is something I never seen anyone talk about: as the rubber gets bigger because of the booster it gets thinner at the same time. And I think that just about sums up the issue with too much boosting.

 

[Ghostzen]

Mucking around with equipment is a bit of a recipe for disaster. That stability is important when developing a mature game.
The hours on the table will definitely have a lot to do with it as well. Dedicated training, coaches and quality sparing partners really cement the strength and choice of shots.

It's very unlikely that a change of racket will just change a level. It may very well have been the catalyst for focus to improve mind.

 

[lodro]

Loosely related question - trying hurricane 3 neo tomorrow. If I hate it can I take it off and “store” it for another time when I perhaps feel like trying it again or maybe have moved on to a quicker blade. Will this damage the rubber at all?

sure, I have done this. I was never fond of Neos and prefer the H3 but as we are all different it is good if you try it out

 

[SlowPower]

This discussion is a joke?

 

[mcfly]

bro ur advice is full of bollocks. i'm 2200 god, you probably at best a 1500.... stop spreading misinformation about reboosting /sealing and ruining people's paddle and rubber.

2200 god LMAO

 

[mcfly]

i think everyone has their own way. maybe this method works for you but not for someone else.
i agree that reboosting will change the feel and characteristics of the rubber so I wouldn't recommend. i personally boost once and when it's dead or too soft I throw it away
good thing is H3 is pretty durable so a sheet can last 6-8 weeks

a 2200 is considered an advanced player so i wouldn't call BS but again, everyone is different...

 

[latej]

i think everyone has their own way. maybe this method works for you but not for someone else.
i agree that reboosting will change the feel and characteristics of the rubber so I wouldn't recommend. i personally boost once and when it's dead or too soft I throw it away
good thing is H3 is pretty durable so a sheet can last 6-8 weeks

Surprises...

I boost gently, and it evaporates after 4-6 weeks, and then I re-boost. The rubber gets bigger, needs "re-cut". If after further 4-6 weeks I don't throw away, but re-boost again, the rubber feels "thin" as @Zwill writes, somewhat lower throw too.

But I guess the most important is that I feel the booster is out, and I'm surprised someone can play with it longer without being frustrated ;-)

 

[mcfly]

you can clearly see the who's pong level is high and who's pong level is low in this thread. I have a feeling you are not a bad player since you do agree with me. For people who don't agree with me i doubt they are over 1800 max.

we played once at spttc so i know what you mean good to see you got better and probably can beat Hunlan now

 

[God-scrubplayer]

i mean if you reboost it becuase you felt it's too "hard" fine... go reboost. However, if you boosted properly and it felt great. then don't "犯贱" and take rubber off and reboost it cuz why not. If you felt the rubber is dead or whatever then just change to new rubber.