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[doppelmoral]

I'm not sure how long you use your K3 for, but booster + H3, 6 to 8 weeks is a bit of a stretch. Maybe 4 to 6 is a bit more possible.

I am an amateur (maybe 1700USATT, dunno how german points convert)

Lets say I am using H3N Prov Blue Sponge 40 degree. I boost it twice, then use it for 6-8 weeks. How many times (or cycles of 6-8 weeks) would you usually reboost until the rubber is not useable anymore? all considering my playing level + 3-4 times practise per week

cheers

 

[TackyForehand]

Moral of the story: EJ better. Got it.

 

[ander999]

Typical Keith type post... if ya know ya know.

 

[Aizen]

I am an amateur (maybe 1700USATT, dunno how german points convert)

Lets say I am using H3N Prov Blue Sponge 40 degree. I boost it twice, then use it for 6-8 weeks. How many times (or cycles of 6-8 weeks) would you usually reboost until the rubber is not useable anymore? all considering my playing level + 3-4 times practise per week

cheers

it's still usable like unboosted H3.

Boosting both stretches top sheet and softens sponge.
By using a durometer, I can measure the softening effect decreases after 3-4 months significantly. (2 times training weekly) (numbers: unboosted 32, 3 layer boosted 27, after 4 months 30)

I cannot say it's certain but observing the reverse dome, top sheet also loses stretch effect a bit.

I accept both effects not completely lost and damages/wears rubber.

But 1 year old H3 and freshly boosted h3 are not similar at all.

My opinion re-boosting makes it closer to freshly boosted state and of course definitely not same.

Hence, If it's okay to play with 6 months-1 years old H3, what's the point of boosting at first place?
This person can play without boosting or boosting only 1 layer as well. Maybe they are just too lazy to reboost? or don't want to degrade rubber prematurely (budget concern).

I've some friends they are just happy with un-boosted Hurricanes.

 

[Jslick89]

I have heard lots of 2500+ players and coaches who are of the same opinion as OP. I also do the same myself (don't reboost, just keep it on then replace). It is certainly a valid opinion, so this thread has probably swung too far in the opposite direction, but not the only opinion. There are obviously also lots of 2500+ players and coaches who do reboost or would encourage others to.

What probably happened here is OP heard this opinion from a few people he respects and now thinks it must be a universal truth that he must bless the forum with. And this is coming from someone who actually does and prefers the same way of not re-boosting, and is a higher level player than the just-turned-2200-god himself.

WHats your rating broski? Thankss for being level headed and respectful in your comments in this thread. I've met some really nice folks and kids playing down in the bay area but i've also seen plenty of kids who have this attitude of being the greatest thing on earth. OP is giving off the vibe of the latter.

Heck I remember when I first started going to tournaments a couple years ago... i was rated maybe around 1200. In my group I was D and in my match against A, who was rated nearly 1600. He didn't even seem like he wanted to play me. Clearly wasn't taking it seriously. Looking around the venue after every point. not focusing stuff like that. Well, I got up 2-0 pretty quickly against him. By the time he tried to make a comeback it was too late because even at my low level, i found something i could exploit against him so by the time he really started trying, I was already winning enough points to finish the match against him. Funnily enough, he came up to me after the match and sort of apologized and thanked me for teaching him a lesson how important it is to always stay focused in this sport.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I am an amateur (maybe 1700USATT, dunno how german points convert)

Lets say I am using H3N Prov Blue Sponge 40 degree. I boost it twice, then use it for 6-8 weeks. How many times (or cycles of 6-8 weeks) would you usually reboost until the rubber is not useable anymore? all considering my playing level + 3-4 times practise per week

cheers

It all depends on how good or how new you want the rubber to be (personal preference).
There is top sheet grip, and there is sponge firmness.

For higher level players, say 2500+
they train for about 100 hours on it with strong forehand and then change.
By this stage, you can feel the rubber's grip is no longer the same, the color of top sheet is also faded.

If you don't have this problem after 4 weeks, because you don't hit hard enough or train enough hours.
I am guessing you can boost 1 more time for another 3 to 4 weeks.
anything after that is difficult to say. It all depends on what condition of the rubber do you prefer.

A provincial H3 cost less than a Tenergy, and Tenergy rubbers are good for only 2 to 3 months too. But some are fine to use it for a year. Similar to some people using car tires until it is really dangerous to drive

 

[Tyce]

Taking 100 hours as an example, if I play 4h a week (league and a bit of training) I can use it for about half a year. That does correlate with my experience of about every mainstream rubber

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Taking 100 hours as an example, if I play 4h a week (league and a bit of training) I can use it for about half a year. That does correlate with my experience of about every mainstream rubber

but, by the 6 month mark, the glue and booster would be long gone

you gotta player more TT per month

 

[Tyce]

but, by the 6 month mark, the glue and booster would be long gone

you gotta player more TT per month

I'm still just party sausage level but I can definitely see myself switching rubber more often in the future if that magically improves my game

 

[ander999]

they aren't h3 users and none of the higher rated players disagreed with me yet. Only lower rated EJ (i was one) disagree and spread misinformation.

I am higher than you and own you on the table every single time we play. You are talking stupid and typical garbage propaganda

 

[God-scrubplayer]

I have heard lots of 2500+ players and coaches who are of the same opinion as OP. I also do the same myself (don't reboost, just keep it on then replace). It is certainly a valid opinion, so this thread has probably swung too far in the opposite direction, but not the only opinion. There are obviously also lots of 2500+ players and coaches who do reboost or would encourage others to.

What probably happened here is OP heard this opinion from a few people he respects and now thinks it must be a universal truth that he must bless the forum with. And this is coming from someone who actually does and prefers the same way of not re-boosting, and is a higher level player than the just-turned-2200-god himself.

nope, what happen is i already did the reboost, sealing, EJ crap and i'm here saving people's time and money. But apparently some people here still trying to spread misinformation.

Coaches might reboost their rubber because they felt it is too hard and they feel they didn't boost properly initially; but to reboost it after months/weeks of play? i don't think any chinese h3 user 2400+ will do that. They might reglue it but not reboost.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

this post is not here to argue but to give proper advice. If someone want to disagree with me please post a video of you playing and show your level of play before spreading misinformation. Yes i sound like a douche but my intention is pure. I will not tolerate basement players giving bad advice when people google search and waste people time and money.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

I am higher than you and own you on the table every single time we play. You are talking stupid and typical garbage propaganda

you don't use h3 and you didn't disagree with me. So my statement stil holds true. no one higher rated than me will disagree with me

 

[lodro]

It is 100% true that waterbased glue softens the blade,

Bollocks, only true if the blade has not been sealed. 😂

It is also true that sealing changes the feeling significantly.

Bollocks, only true if the blades are sealed wrong. Everybody knows that.
🤣

 

[lodro]

I will not tolerate basement players giving bad advice when people google search and waste people time and money.

With the words of Clint Eastwood AKA "Dirty Harry" : " You are legend in your own mind " !
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

[ander999]

you don't use h3 and you didn't disagree with me. So my statement stil holds true. no one higher rated than me will disagree with me

Dont use H3 because it aint for me, and also I don't have to cheat to win (aka boosting)

 

[passifid]

Tbqh rating isn't all that. It's about fun.

I got to my best skill level this year by being less forehand oriented and playing in a division where my win rate is like 25%

But here is the kicker, after the third year of my once a week play session being spent on improving my backhand in a row I'm a bit bored of playing the same style in the same rough position in my small club and therefore have moved backwards as I play for fun

So I EJ and bought a KMZC with P1v and will spend this year practicing DEF play and so far I'm having a blast learning new skills. So I suspect my rating equivent has dropped a lot but honestly I don't care 😘

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Tbqh rating isn't all that. It's about fun.

I got to my best skill level this year by being less forehand oriented and playing in a division where my win rate is like 25%

But here is the kicker, after the third year of my once a week play session being spent on improving my backhand in a row I'm a bit bored of playing the same style in the same rough position in my small club and therefore have moved backwards as I play for fun

So I EJ and bought a KMZC with P1v and will spend this year practicing DEF play and so far I'm having a blast learning new skills. So I suspect my rating equivent has dropped a lot but honestly I don't care 😘

EJ is fun, it just cost time and money and skill I've done that. I enjoyed my EJ journey.

 

[Amayzde]

H3 and K3 is so different
H3 pros, can use it for 1 to 2 weeks
K3 is 1 to 2 days

K3, after an hour of use, you can see the stains and color change on the topsheet.
Price wise, they are about the same.

I'm not sure how long you use your K3 for, but booster + H3, 6 to 8 weeks is a bit of a stretch. Maybe 4 to 6 is a bit more possible.

Yeah I have to admit that I underestimated the difference at first.

On slower shots I find them quite similar, but on full power I still have to get used to the low arc.

Serve, short balls and flicks are really nice so far. Best of any rubber I have ever played with. Although long and fast serves still have to get up to speed.

Lets not talk too much about blocks hehehe…

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Typical Keith type post... if ya know ya know.

If he was as good at table tennis as he is at making himself widely disliked, both online and in the real world, he'd be 2700 by now...