San Francisco looking for training partner.

[ThePongCommenter]

Bollocks, only true if the blade has not been sealed. 😂

Bollocks, only true if the blades are sealed wrong. Everybody knows that.
🤣

Everyone knows that except for some of your continent's recent Olympic representative players and coaches so maybe you can teach them, as well as us on this thread, what the right way is, since many people who are competent players and coaches have noticed a difference in feeling and glue adhesion with varnishing.

 

[blahness]

Yeah I have to admit that I underestimated the difference at first.

On slower shots I find them quite similar, but on full power I still have to get used to the low arc.

Serve, short balls and flicks are really nice so far. Best of any rubber I have ever played with. Although long and fast serves still have to get up to speed.

Lets not talk too much about blocks hehehe…

I actually tried K3 on someone else's blade and it felt a lot like Dignics series. Catapulty and spinny - it is a very good rubber. But yeah the durability sucks a bit too much - if you take that into account it is a more expensive rubber than D05 for eg

 

[Lazer]

Bollocks, only true if the blade has not been sealed. 😂

Bollocks, only true if the blades are sealed wrong. Everybody knows that.
🤣

100% agree, cleaning with water makes more damage…
Why… because of the capillary effect at the end grains. That’s where you don’t want access water when cleaning rubbers.

Cheers
L-zr

Edit: sorry I just realized this thread wasn’t about sealing

 

[riemsesy]

@scrubplayer you'd be level 1100 or maybe 1200 in the Netherlands
Doesn't matter, rankings differ per country, so you don't play badly.

Nobody ever called you out on your serve? cupping the ball in your hand?


The guy you were playing against lifted his hand with the ball and the ball barely came loose from his hand... He didn't throw it high enough. An odd throw he has.

 

[lodro]

Everyone knows that except for some of your continent's recent Olympic representative players and coaches so maybe you can teach them, as well as us on this thread, what the right way is, since many people who are competent players and coaches have noticed a difference in feeling and glue adhesion with varnishing.

Why people always refer to Olympic representatives, top players and coaches , is a complete mystery to me.
What have these champions of Table tennis got to do with the other 99% of players in the world ???
Do they buy and pay for their blades and rubbers ?
Do they care if a $ 1000 blade gets ruined when ripping rubbers off ?
Is there any real prove that top player can all feel the difference between a carefully sealed blade and a "raw" blade ?
Don't we ordinary folks know by now that the top players play the game on a completely different level than we do ?
Just as an example , when we look at the recently posted video where Dan end the lads take on Quadri Aruna. The lads slave their guts out and play brilliantly , QA does not even get a sweat up, has a giggle and calls them hobby players.
I think i got it, when in a recent Tournament Ma Long had to turn the blade around and when Wang Chu qin could not play at all with his spare blade some miserable bastard must have secretly sealed their blades...............may he rot in hell

 

[lodro]

Edit: sorry I just realized this thread wasn’t about sealing

no worries, I can't even remember how this thread started.
But while we are at it : of course I do seal my end-grains as well.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Why people always refer to Olympic representatives, top players and coaches , is a complete mystery to me.
What have these champions of Table tennis got to do with the other 99% of players in the world ???
Do they buy and pay for their blades and rubbers ?
Do they care if a $ 1000 blade gets ruined when ripping rubbers off ?
Is there any real prove that top player can all feel the difference between a carefully sealed blade and a "raw" blade ?
Don't we ordinary folks know by now that the top players play the game on a completely different level than we do ?
Just as an example , when we look at the recently posted video where Dan end the lads take on Quadri Aruna. The lads slave their guts out and play brilliantly , QA does not even get a sweat up, has a giggle and calls them hobby players.
I think i got it, when in a recent Tournament Ma Long had to turn the blade around and when Wang Chu qin could not play at all with his spare blade some miserable bastard must have secretly sealed their blades...............may he rot in hell

Massive moving of the goalposts. You said that everybody knows that sealing doesn't change the feeling. Have you entertained the possibility that there are players in between your level and Quadri's level that might be able to discern differences that you can't?

 

[lodro]

Massive moving of the goalposts. You said that everybody knows that sealing doesn't change the feeling.

sorry, could not find an a smile that shows cynicism.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

You've been oscillating between 2050-2150 for the past 5 years. You also have been very adamant about ESN being trash for at least several years. So at what point did you commit to DHS/Butterfly?

Going from 2000 to 2200 in 6 years, with the majority of that 6 years being spent in the 2050-2150 range, and then only recently going up that final 50 points, doesn't really paint the picture of a commitment to equipment leading to a massive change in level.

All that being said, I actually agree with the central point. Equipment does matter. Even moreso at higher levels. People on forums oftentimes downplay that. But it's weird to make a thread that was clearly a humblebrag and disguise it as an equipment discussion.

When I ocscillate, it was because I was ejing

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

so what if my rating is 1100 to 1200 in another country. My level of play stays the same.
Post your rating/region before giving advice, that's what i'm asking. We can't have basement playing giving misinformation left and right and ruining people's rubber/racket time and money right?

you are getting ruder and ruder every post.
you think your level is anything to be proud about because people has gave you there congratulations?
not sure if you are always like that, or the praises has made you float in the air.

I gave you congratulations because of mutual respect, but I been feeling you don't need mutual respect.
2200 as I said, is just a kids level in Asia, and you are barking like you are the god and king of equipment on ttd
come back when you are 2400 or 2500, which could be national team level in some lower end countries, otherwise you are no different to other hobby players out there in the eyes of people who are within the semi pro to pro circle (yes, that is me)

anyone to everyone can post on TTD, you just need to distinguish it, but you obviously have no intention of taking in information that doesn't suite your beliefs, am I right about that?

just like you a mere hobby player telling me I can't reboost my H3, well, I just did last week, and its okay for me to use. would you take that in? no!

 

[Loop Lob Smash]

Everyone should know that the only rating that is of any importance is 'how hot do you look in your table tennis kit?'
I propose a scale 1 - 1,000,000 Scovills, where we assign a rating of 1,000,000 to Adrianna Diaz.
my wife says I'm a solid 650,000. The only relevant question then becomes... how do I get from 650,000 to 1,000,000 scovills? Well @Tony's Table Tennis how? how?

 

[h3llary]

This is simply false. Just because professionals focus primarily on their training doesn't mean they don't also think a lot about their equipment and make changes and tweaks based on what they feel and how their results are. Many of them do.

Some of them do, most of them don't. Most of them focus on complete other things. If many of them focused on equipment, we would see them trying new rubbers a lot more often but that simply doesn't happen, so it's not false.

 

[Gozo Aruna]

• This is a good spot for me to recap a story about my former coach.
• When he was in his younger days and still part of the National Squad, during his competitive career he only uses Tenergy 05 and before that was Sriver during the speed-glue era ( pre-Tenergy era )
• But let's just focus on the Tenergy 05 era.
• He uses the now discontinued BTY Kim Taek Soo JPen One Ply Hinoki ( 10.5mm ) and that blade is already 30 years old when I went under his coaching.
• He has never change the blade and never change rubber type like EVER!!!
• You could say he is the antithesis of the EJ'er.
• He also never bought any Tenergy 05 using his own money as all his stock was supplied by the team manager.
• He gets a few sheets a month ( probably four sheets , I am guessing ) and he was expected to change one fresh sheet once every week.
• However, one week became two weeks, and then become once a month.
• Perhaps he got lazy but he one thing he said that still rings with me is that he mentioned it was because Tenergy 05 can last long.
• It was god sent compared to the era of the speed-glue where they have to speed-glue every other day.
• These day he uses Dignics 05 and that was because an adult learner ( typical EJ'er ) bought a sheet, could not use it and then donated to him.
• Once I asked him about equipment and there being no surprise: he recommends Tenergy 05 or Rozena if you are a kid or budget conscious. He does not know any other rubber except for Tenergy 05.
• So, there you have it folks, a real pro who have little knowledge of products. He just train, play and win. Day-in, day-out. Just like us regular folks, clock-in, clock-out of our office until retirement.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

rating is just a number. just like money in your bank account.
there is always someone way richer than you. there is always someone way better than you at table tennis

maybe only Ma Long or Fan Zhendong can think otherwise.

i don't see the point of being rude to someone because he makes you feel bad about some number

 

[ThePongCommenter]

When I ocscillate, it was because I was ejing

Even though you were publicly saying as far back as 2020 that ESN and Xiom etc are trash and that Butterfly/09C is the best?

Of course. It's just that OP seems to be implying that, even though he has put in a good amount of dedicated training time over the past 6 years, he was being significantly held back by his choice of equipment. This is possible and does happen to people but is not the case for him given that he has posted the exact same opinions about ESN being trash since at least 2020 (Exhibit 1 ... Exhibit 2 .... Exhibit 3).

 

[Gozo Aruna]

Tenergy users be like:

Why all the fuss with boosting?

 

[lodro]

Have you entertained the possibility that there are players in between your level and Quadri's level that might be able to discern differences that you can't?

sure but what is it supposed to have to do with the price of fish ?

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Even though you were publicly saying as far back as 2020 that ESN and Xiom etc are trash and that Butterfly/09C is the best?

that's just xiom, my EJ journey went the whole 9 miles with other brand

 

[Attitude]

So to get this shitshow back to topic.

As a long time chinese rubber user (currently H3 on bh for a longer time already) i can somewhat relate to what OP is saying.

So lets recreate the process in our minds and try to see and understand whats happening.

Maybe we are on the same page after all:
First we boost the H3 to get it to have certain other playing characteristics. Lets say we boost perfectly.
Lets say after around 1-2 months you feel your rubber losing its edge a bit. At this point you have 3 options with different outcomes.

1. You keep the rubber on your blade and adjust. Usually you lose a little bit of the easier accessable power due to the evaporated booster imo. On the other hand your rubber should be broken in at that point so the effects should be diminished to a certain extent. Still noticable though.

2. You start the process from the beginning. New rubber, freshly boosted. That should give you the best reconstructable result, at the usual cost of being the most expensive way.

3. You reboost your rubber. Some thoughts to that, because i am currently doing that too, and having several issues with that.
By that you will probably give the rubber back some of that power it got from the first boost.

The issues imo: reboosting is harder to get reconstructable results. I often have different reactions on the rubber too. Some spots are more domed than others.
My last rubber had to hit the bin right after the second training session after reboosting because it was mushy on some spots i hit with it and some shots simply went overboard that should have landed. I reboosted another rubber and it went fine. So we put another variation into our equipment again by reboosting.
Another factor should definitly be that you glue more often and damage your blade. Or you have to seal it more often which is another variation to your equipment again... I hope you see the point. Variation in game is very good, in your own equipment it is NOT!

All in all i am currently considering leaving my H3 on the blade for longer and observe the change in characteristics it gets in time. If those are less or equal to having my H3 reboosted, than i might stop reboosting. Especially if those changes are so low that i can easily tweak my gameplay and work with it, becaue i know for a fact that i cant work with a shitty reboost result 😅

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Everyone should know that the only rating that is of any importance is 'how hot do you look in your table tennis kit?'
I propose a scale 1 - 1,000,000 Scovills, where we assign a rating of 1,000,000 to Adrianna Diaz.
my wife says I'm a solid 650,000. The only relevant question then becomes... how do I get from 650,000 to 1,000,000 scovills? Well @Tony's Table Tennis how? how?1

If I can fit this on, I might be a 1 million
but I'm too fat.
Will the bath towel give me extra level boost?