San Francisco looking for training partner.

[CallMeZaddy]

Changed my backhand to D80 since two D09C on a 95g blade started feeling a bit heavy at times and made it hard for transitions. D09C FH and D80 BH on a 95g blade is about 190g. This setup feels amazing and is so well balanced. I no longer have those uncontrollable moments I sometimes have with D80 on regular viscaria where it'll just shoot out and I have to rely on instincts to keep the ball in play. Still have access to the speed and spin of D80 though and much easier to use than D09C on BH. I still prefer D09C BH on regular viscaria though. I feel that blade provides enough of a baseline speed to use the rubber.

 

[riemsesy]

Changed my backhand to D80 since two D09C on a 95g blade started feeling a bit heavy at times and made it hard for transitions. D09C FH and D80 BH on a 95g blade is about 190g. This setup feels amazing and is so well balanced. I no longer have those uncontrollable moments I sometimes have with D80 on regular viscaria where it'll just shoot out and I have to rely on instincts to keep the ball in play. Still have access to the speed and spin of D80 though and much easier to use than D09C on BH. I still prefer D09C BH on regular viscaria though. I feel that blade provides enough of a baseline speed to use the rubber.

Did you weigh the blade before and after? If so, what is the weight difference between d80 and d09c?

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Did you weigh the blade before and after? If so, what is the weight difference between d80 and d09c?

5 g. D80 cut is 45g and D09C cut is 50g

 

[SlowPower]

First of all we can learn alot about illegal serves.

Question:
Do you think this is more than low/medium intermediate level?

 

[NetProphet]

Or you and your buddy could learn to serve correctly?
The entire point of your post has been ignored by everyone but you get one bite with a valid point and you crap on it 🤷
Can you guess why everyone else maybe ignored your question?

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Hence your objective of this post is........???

We love your Golden Viscaria thread more.

 

[blahness]

First of all we can learn alot about illegal serves.

Question:
Do you think this is more than low/medium intermediate level?

This is why anti/LP rubbers are so advantageous at amateur level, you can basically deal with these illegal serves easily which are just way too common (OP is not even the exception unfortunately). You can see that their left arms are intentionally left out for as long as possible, and the ball is thrown almost horizontally lol.

Receiving these serves with inverted is just way too much of a pain. You can see how many outright serve receive errors there are. If you dont receive correctly the 3rd ball attack is awaiting you.

 

[blahness]

speak for yourself - count the percentage of mistakes and pop-ups you made when receiving illegal serves? Or how many mistakes/pop-up your partner made when receiving your illegal serves?

 

[NetProphet]

Yes, you are being ignored, for sure!!
But come on then.
If I have this correct you're saying that you're levels above the penholder but can only beat him 3-2 and your question is: why?

To answer this I would have to watch the matches so I'll pass.
I am interested in your take on it tho so I'll check back next week for the answer.

 

[NetProphet]

speak for yourself - count how the percentage of mistakes and pop-ups you made when receiving illegal serves? Or how many mistakes/pop-up your partner made when receiving your illegal serves?

Beautiful.
I think he hasn't even bothered to watch the matches 😂

 

[banbekas]

Your opponent seems to be better than you at serve and receive. When you receive the ball, it's lacking in quality and placement, giving your opponent initiative to attack which made you play passively. The good thing tho, he was bad with his follow ups, giving you time to play around with him. Once you mess around with placement a bit and put more quality to it, he was unable to deal with it. Honestly, you could have just blasted him like you did in the last set.

The glasses scrub pretty much is like my brother. Awesome at serve and receive but unable to do anything about it.

 

[Amayzde]

🍿

 

[blahness]

Both of your left arms moves so little that you two might as well just leave it there lol.

Your serve is way more illegal than his, so yeah you're right, you have absolutely no right to bitch about it.

 

[blahness]

Your opponent seems to be better than you at serve and receive. When you receive the ball, it's lacking in quality and placement, giving your opponent initiative to attack which made you play passively. The good thing tho, he was bad with his follow ups, giving you time to play around with him. Once you mess around with placement a bit and put more quality to it, he was unable to deal with it. Honestly, you could have just blasted him like you did in the last set.

The glasses scrub pretty much is like my brother. Awesome at serve and receive but unable to do anything about it.

The problem for the penholder is that his FH is too weak and error prone. There were so many floaters that he missed. If he had a real quality penhold FH attack, there would be no chance for OP to get back in the point. Penholders cannot afford to have bad FHs in general.

Ffs my LP/inverted combination penhold training partner would have destroyed all of these balls with ease and have 0 issues receiving either one's serves. It'll just basically be LP receive followed by FH loopkills all day long.

 

[Machi]

Match 1:

Match 2:

A practice match against another scrub. Wanna quiz u plebs on why even though it is 3:2 it is not close in terms of level? Take your guess/theory and i'll drop the answer in couple of days. Ego boost aside, there's lot to learn from the loss from that penhold because i see a lot of players play like that.

1 person has gold vis, other doesn't, so its close but not close?

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

1 person has gold vis, other doesn't, so its close but not close?

Spoken like a prophet!

 

[banbekas]

The real answer is

GJV (golden jesus viscaria),you are the far better player compared to the penhold, but to actually have the gall to say you control the pace against him? Cmon, now. When playing someone far below your level, you are not controlling the pace and the tempo, you are just messing around with him because you know you can afford mistakes against him. For me, you can say you control the pace when you are up against people around or above your level. If you play someone far below you, it's not controlling the pace. You are just having fun. Hence my point you could have just blasted him easy.

The problem for the penholder is that his FH is too weak and error prone. There were so many floaters that he missed. If he had a real quality penhold FH attack, there would be no chance for OP to get back in the point. Penholders cannot afford to have bad FHs in general.

Ffs my LP/inverted combination penhold training partner would have destroyed all of these balls with ease and have 0 issues receiving either one's serves. It'll just basically be LP receive followed by FH loopkills all day long.

Yes, this is why I said GJV was just messing around most of the time. The penhold wasn't bad when it comes to FH, the quality is bad I know, he mistimed the ball so often, probably due to his inability to correctly judge the amount of spin and effect on the ball. The way I see it, it was a play you'd expect from a player who is up against a far better one.

 

[blahness]

Yes, this is why I said GJV was just messing around most of the time. The penhold wasn't bad when it comes to FH, the quality is bad I know, he mistimed the ball so often, probably due to his inability to correctly judge the amount of spin and effect on the ball. The way I see it, it was a play you'd expect from a player who is up against a far better one.

Nah, his FH is just bad. He obviously spent a lot of time trying to make his RPB good but this was at the expense of his FH training, and his RPB is still quite a bit worse than the shakehand BH especially in terms of stability.

This is why I think that RPB is quite useless at the amateur level and one would play better with LP on the other side and learning to use LP to disrupt the opponent to then finish them off with FH loopkill. LP also makes them almost immune in serve receive while retaining most of the inverted benefits (really deceptive serves + penhold 3rd ball)

When I was using double inverted I was never afraid of the RPB penholders because of their weak FH, plus I was always better in the BH-BH diagonal anyways. The worst thing is that they were always bad at defending heavy topspin with RPB inverted which is a huge problem.

 

[Metaxa]

I think I only watched 2 x 2 minutes of each clip and I immediately observed that the non-penholder player has the wrong game attitude. Just because you have a slightly or somewhat athletic appearance does not mean you also have technical, tactical and a better set up.
There is still a lot of work to be done I would say!

 

[blahness]

Lol so basically serve cheats are allowed to brag here too. Hilarious.