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Hi,
thanks for the review.
were you testing the un-boosted 09C against boosted H3, and was it H3 Nat blue sponge?

I tried both boost and unboost 09c. My first part of the review is almost independent of h3. The only thing i talked about compare to h3 is the grip which is less. The boosting effect only affect the top spin top spin rally. It makes the rubber easier to play with which is very important. The whole reason why t05 is such a grail is because it does so much for you even if you are out of position.


the h3 i tried is indeed the blue nat boosted.
 
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Hi,
I have 1.9 mm red 09C un boosted and 2.2mm black H3 Nat blue sponge 41 degree un boosted.
The spring sponge X makes the 09C much more livelier than the H3 Nat, so 2.1mm 09C would be even more bouncy. This means the 09C is faster than the H3 for less effort.
09C does have good short touch but not like H3, you have to be far more careful with your touch shots, a very light touch is needed because of the spring sponge, with H3 you have to use more force as H3 is ‘dead’ in comparison.
i have never used TO5, I have a sheet of T80 FX and I agree that this is livelier than the 09C. So it’s easier for touch play with 09C than T80FX but both are harder to play touch shots than H3.

I’ve only ever boosted 1 sheet of Standard H3, never boosted any other rubbers.
i now have a spare sheet of H3 Nat and will be applying 2 possibly 3 layers of Falco long term booster over the next few days.
From what happened after boosting the STD H3, I’m expecting the boosted H3 Nat play closer to un boosted 09C as far as speed is concerned.


For myself I find the H3 un boosted easier to play than the un boosted 09C on my forehand side and the 09C better for my Backhand!!!!!
any more info on a comparison between H3 boosted and 09C boosted would be very appreciated.
 
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All these ESN are like german cars. They drive great for the first 3 years (aka for the first few weeks) but they age terribly. Dignics easily out live any ESN by a large margin. It's actually cheaper to have dignics over ESNs.

And you make this conclusion after trying the Butterfly for how long?

K2 is a great rubber. Tibhar comes out with a hard and tacky rubber to compete with H3 that is actually hard and tacky. Not like all the other in-betweener huddlers/trend followers.

More durable than Spinart, and I would say almost as durable as a good sheet of H3.
 
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And you make this conclusion after trying the Butterfly for how long?

K2 is a great rubber. Tibhar comes out with a hard and tacky rubber to compete with H3 that is actually hard and tacky. Not like all the other in-betweener huddlers/trend followers.

More durable than Spinart, and I would say almost as durable as a good sheet of H3.

I tried a bunch before I stick with BTY. Initially i thought bty is expensive so I tried yasaki,xiom,mxp,dhs. At the end of the day, bty provides the best rubbers. Their rubbers are stable with long life span.

H3 is durable as in it's durable to chipping, but a boosted h3 i can bubble it within 3 weeks easy.
 
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For me the playing-characteristic of Dignics 09C is far away from H3. This does not mean that one of them is better than the other. They are simply different. Besides the tackiness D09C has nothing else to do with H3. One player will say that he definitely prefers the H3, the other one (like me) would say that the Dignics fits much better to his game.

Personally I am used to European (ESN Tensor) or Japanese (Butterfly Spring Sponge) rubbers. For a long time I used medium hard rubbers between 42 and 45°. In the last 2 years I switched to the harder versions like Nexus EL Pro 48 or 50, Rhyzer Pro 50, T05 and T05 Hard. From time to time I tried out different versions of the H3 (Commercial, Provincial, National, Neo and Non-Neo, boosted and unboosted), but besides the annoying boosting-process I also did not get used to any H3. Maybe I am too silly to understand this rubber.

When I tried out the D09C, it was a pleasure from the first moment on. Of course the feeling was different (for example compared with T05, T05 Hard or Dignics 05), but nevertheless I had no problems in any part. This rubber is very spinny, has lots of control and enough power for attacking.

In the last weeks I tested my new blades (from "hipnotic") side by side with different rubber-combinations. Fortunately several of the harder rubbers fit to this blade and I am be able to play with most of them. But up to last week none of the tested rubbers had a similar feeling like D09C (for me the first choice on my backhand) - until I tested the Nittaku Sieger PK 50 three days ago (with my robot). This is the first rubber, which has similar playing-skills like the D09C, maybe a bit slower (less powerful) than D09C, but this may be caused to the fact that the D09C is well used (broken in) while the SPK50 was brand new (and extremely tacky) when I tested it this Monday.

Today I will test both rubbers in real training-matches and I hope that the SPK50 can compete with D09C, because the price of the Dignics is really crazy and therefore I would be happy to find a much cheaper alternative from Nittaku.
 
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Do post some feedback on the Nittaku Sieger PK 50 (i too hope this do well).

This rubber has been heavily criticized in Japan against Dignics 09C, ignoring the fact that this is a totally different price range and etc. Feel a lot has been too heavy handed.

At least I can understand if ppl compare it vs FastArc G1, but versus any Dignic or Tenergy range seems to be an unfair comparison.
 
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For me the playing-characteristic of Dignics 09C is far away from H3. This does not mean that one of them is better than the other. They are simply different. Besides the tackiness D09C has nothing else to do with H3. One player will say that he definitely prefers the H3, the other one (like me) would say that the Dignics fits much better to his game.

Personally I am used to European (ESN Tensor) or Japanese (Butterfly Spring Sponge) rubbers. For a long time I used medium hard rubbers between 42 and 45°. In the last 2 years I switched to the harder versions like Nexus EL Pro 48 or 50, Rhyzer Pro 50, T05 and T05 Hard. From time to time I tried out different versions of the H3 (Commercial, Provincial, National, Neo and Non-Neo, boosted and unboosted), but besides the annoying boosting-process I also did not get used to any H3. Maybe I am too silly to understand this rubber.

When I tried out the D09C, it was a pleasure from the first moment on. Of course the feeling was different (for example compared with T05, T05 Hard or Dignics 05), but nevertheless I had no problems in any part. This rubber is very spinny, has lots of control and enough power for attacking.

In the last weeks I tested my new blades (from "hipnotic") side by side with different rubber-combinations. Fortunately several of the harder rubbers fit to this blade and I am be able to play with most of them. But up to last week none of the tested rubbers had a similar feeling like D09C (for me the first choice on my backhand) - until I tested the Nittaku Sieger PK 50 three days ago (with my robot). This is the first rubber, which has similar playing-skills like the D09C, maybe a bit slower (less powerful) than D09C, but this may be caused to the fact that the D09C is well used (broken in) while the SPK50 was brand new (and extremely tacky) when I tested it this Monday.

Today I will test both rubbers in real training-matches and I hope that the SPK50 can compete with D09C, because the price of the Dignics is really crazy and therefore I would be happy to find a much cheaper alternative from Nittaku.

I created a topic under Nittaku rubbers . Will appreciate your feedback on SPK50.
 
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I tried Rakza Z on one side and Dignics 09c on the other, on the Hurricane Long 5x blade, and these are my observations:

Rakza Z is more linear, i.e. the slow shots and the fast shots are directly proportional to the force you exert, while the Dignics 09c has more of a response that when you do a weak shot it is very slow, but the forceful shots have more zing to it. The 09c has a higher top speed than the Rakza Z. At first I could not pinpoint what the difference is because they are very similar. 09c is slower on the slow end, and faster on the fast end.

I find it more enjoyable to use the 09c because the higher gears has a satisfying click + speed boost, but the Rakza Z is more controlled in my opinion, so it depends on what you are going for. I think in the end Rakza Z may win me more points my getting my shots with placement and on the table more times, but the 09c will have more put away power and the slow spinny loops are quite spinny.

On slow loops, the 09c will have more spin.

Rakza Z behaves more like Hurricane 3 Neo Prov Blue Sponge, with a big difference: the throw angle of Rakza Z is much higher than Hurricane. The top end speed will also be faster on the boosted Blue Sponge.
 
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Only against robot, I’m liking it more and more each time I use it. In fact just ordered another sheet!!!
i have 1.9mm thickness sponge, so may be a little slower, and slightly more control than the 2.1mm.

good spin on BH serves, but because the sponge is (for me) very bouncy and the top sheet ‘slightly’ tacky the energy is still very efficiently transferred to the ball. So a very light touch is required.
09C does have many gears, but at very low speed touch shots and for short, and I mean very short serves, (2nd and 3rd bounce before the ball reaches 1/2 way into the opponent’s side of the table) then care and touch are needed.
for more usual short and half long knuckle breaker serves, long and fast serves the rubber preforms really well, high spin, good control and fast when needed.

pushing - early hard push very good, Softer push (see above) variation of spin when pushing, has been difficult to assess as there’s not enough space in my garage to watch the ball path and resulting spin past the end of the table (what I have noticed is that I can still hear the ball spinning in the collection tray, especially when playing a push with some side spin on it) I don’t have good enough technique when trying to play a ‘ghost’ push so can’t comment on that, I haven’t been able to push and stop the ball within 2 bounces.
But my feeling is that the amount of spin imparted can be controlled.
This rubber is really good for the faster attacking pushes.

backhand passive block, very good, active block very good, (robot topspin is high with faster speeds)

BH topspin against backspin very good, for my limited ability, Backhand flick (against mediocre robot serve) very good, my ability level for this shot is improving. In general though against backspin, it performs well. (When playing against the robots backspin directly onto my side of the table, the robot produces what I class as very high backspin, similar to playing a very spinny FH topspin to a LP rubber or very good chopper and getting all the spin back) so I feel that a better player with good backhand technique will produce some really high class flicks and returns against backspin.

BH top spin v top spin, BH loop, nice, nicer, very fast spin loaded shots can be produced.
BH drive - very good, fast and good control, precision needed with flat hits, but these are good as well, not a shot I play much though, prefer to spin!!

Chopping - I’ve played chops against topspin, and the rubber is capable of reasonable chop shots, but the space behind the table is only about 5 feet (1.5m ish) so it’s difficult to really assess properly, I have a good chopping technique (but rarely used these days) and was still able to produce a low spinny chop on about 50% of the shots, which I feel is good considering how fast the ball was coming at me when only 4ft(1.2m ish) behind the table and trying to play a chop!!!!

Passive shots / reaction to incoming spin, still reacts to incoming spin fairly highly so a passive shot using the opponents spin and trying to throw it back to them needs care.

Because i haven’t been able to play in a real match or training situation against another person, my PERSONAL assessment could well change slightly.

please remember this is PERSONAL assessment and all reviews are dependant on playing level and ability.
for reference I play local league English level in the middle divisions of the league. So not considered high standard. But like a lot of people I have trained and been coached, and once we all get through this COVID-19 outbreak and things return to somewhat normal conditions I will be taking the official coaching badges, I also help out with coaching sessions run by other coaches , mainly because I’m willing !!!! But also because my general technique is pretty good.


All in all 09C is a fantastic BH rubber, great spin , great speed, great control,
 
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Another rubber (Rakza Z) bites the dust

I tried Rakza Z on one side and Dignics 09c on the other, on the Hurricane Long 5x blade, and these are my observations:

Rakza Z is more linear, i.e. the slow shots and the fast shots are directly proportional to the force you exert, while the Dignics 09c has more of a response that when you do a weak shot it is very slow, but the forceful shots have more zing to it. The 09c has a higher top speed than the Rakza Z. At first I could not pinpoint what the difference is because they are very similar. 09c is slower on the slow end, and faster on the fast end.

I find it more enjoyable to use the 09c because the higher gears has a satisfying click + speed boost, but the Rakza Z is more controlled in my opinion, so it depends on what you are going for. I think in the end Rakza Z may win me more points my getting my shots with placement and on the table more times, but the 09c will have more put away power and the slow spinny loops are quite spinny.

On slow loops, the 09c will have more spin.

Rakza Z behaves more like Hurricane 3 Neo Prov Blue Sponge, with a big difference: the throw angle of Rakza Z is much higher than Hurricane. The top end speed will also be faster on the boosted Blue Sponge.

From your description, you'll do away with the Rakza Z as soon as you get fully used to the D09C. I give you 1 year:)
 
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Still trying justify buying a TT rubber that costs more than my car tyre

You guys are making it very difficult for me not to buy D09C. For example:

Magic_M; “When I tried out the D09C, it was a pleasure from the first moment on”

Ant man; “I find it more enjoyable to use the 09c” – vs Rakza7

IB66; “I’m liking it more and more each time I use it. In fact just ordered another sheet!!!”

The only thing stopping me buying a couple sheets is that my D05 shows no sign of deteriorating even after a year of use. And a friend gave me an almost new sheet of T05 as he had bought D09C.
 
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The only thing stopping me buying a couple sheets is that my D05 shows no sign of deteriorating even after a year of use.

Care to share some pics so we can compare with the official ones?
 
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