San Francisco looking for training partner.

[lodro]

build quality looks about same as these blades but these only cost about $ 30 and play nicely.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328...68#1000022185#1000066058#0_668#3422#15392#260

 

[SDC]

I don't think he scammed anybody, or at least that it was his intention. And of course it was only my opinion, based on facts, but still just my opinion. Manufacturers use the term ALC loosely, and I don't mean just blade builders, there are also some brands using Diolen-Carbon in their blades and they don't identify it as such. In fact, the only brand that comes to mind that clearly states it's using Diolen is Vodak. I also do it because I like to be clear on what I use.

Diolen is a lot softer than Vectran, but by using a denser weave you can get away with a similar feeling. But people talk about the type of fiber like it's the only thing that matters. There are so many variables: fiber type, density, weave pattern, type of resin used, amount of resin... All of those will make a difference.

 

[Robin.w]

Thanks for the review and I really enjoy your videos a lot.. I am not active here these days and would really like to share anything I know regarding custom blades. I am a player and EJ rather that a blade builder so my knowledge maybe limited . This custom blade thing started from me and another EJ online talking about the forehand of w968 and backhand of Viscaria. We luckily find a nice carpenter with great experience to work with. We tried all kinds of wood combo, carbon fiber and layer placement. Some failed and some succeeded. It's always tough to build something new when the most popular carbon blades from most brands are almost the same designs: carbon inner like hl5 or carbon out like viscaria . I am not promoting this kind of services for my carpenter for a period of time not only because i I have finally find what I want but also because it is really difficult to achieve certain improvement regarding playing characters

The question about the ALC is new to me and I will try to figure it out with the carpenter. Thanks @hipnotic for your sharing.
Regarding the "hollow" feeling, it is most coming from the core ply. How many support the core ply can provide is most important from my experience. The special treated core ply is the best compromise after we tried a lot when we tried to mix the hl5 forehand and viscaria backhand. I cut a whole kiri core into 5,7,9 pieces and glue them together to change the playing charactors really cost time and money but sometimes it does not help to get what we want. Thank @SpinSquid for the understanding

Thanks again for the review from @scrubplayer and all the comments . I am truly amazed to get connected with friends all over the world because of table tennis . Hope we can play more table tennis this year.

 

[Robin.w]

Thanks again. You are really knowledgeable

I don't think he scammed anybody, or at least that it was his intention. And of course it was only my opinion, based on facts, but still just my opinion. Manufacturers use the term ALC loosely, and I don't mean just blade builders, there are also some brands using Diolen-Carbon in their blades and they don't identify it as such. In fact, the only brand that comes to mind that clearly states it's using Diolen is Vodak. I also do it because I like to be clear on what I use.

Diolen is a lot softer than Vectran, but by using a denser weave you can get away with a similar feeling. But people talk about the type of fiber like it's the only thing that matters. There are so many variables: fiber type, density, weave pattern, type of resin used, amount of resin... All of those will make a difference.

 

[Olio]

I agree with the sentiment in this thread.
I ordered a blade from Robin as well, a Maze clone.

The finish was a little bit disappointing, with stripes on the handle that weren't parallel. And having played with the blade for some time, I too found it hollow. And it had a frustratingly low throw compared to my Maze and Freitas.

I didn't, and won't complain, as I knew this blade may not behave like the original ones, due to many different reasons. It's a nice controllable blade however.

Live and learn.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Me: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHFt6u49tS4fQufwszprStg/videos
rating: 2100usatt conventional 2 wing attacker

I"m going to keep it short.

Info:
- both blade is exactly 88g
- when testing both use the exact same rubber (i just peel it off and stick to another paddle).

Technical differences:
- hl5 is more head heavy
- hl5x is more handle heavy
- hl5 have more dwell and provide a more powerful shot.
- hl5x is faster off bounce but less powerful cuz it doesn't flex like hl5

Summary:
The difference between hl5 and hl5x is like alc vs zlc. hl5 flexs when you hit it hard while hl5x is stiff. They are both very powerful blade definitely more powerful than my viscaria.

Also, ths is not hte first hl5 and hl5x i tried, in the past i tried my friend's hl5 and hl5x and my conclusion is exactly the same. hl5 is indeed more head heavy while hl5x is more handle heavy. I miss more shots with hl5 but at the same time shot produce by hl5 is more powerful.

/thread

 

[God-scrubplayer]

I need a 05fx red 2.1 and I got the following rubbers up for trade.

I have the following rubbers, I"m willing to trade those for 05fx red 2.1mm. Let me know which one you want.

Brand new sealed:
- 1x t05 black 2.1
- d09c black 2.1
- d05 red 2.1
- lightly used d09c 2.1mm black (used 1 session)
- lightly used d05 2.1mm red (used 2 session)
- lightly used t05 2.1mm black (used 1 session)

Since this is trade only local meetup i'm in san francisco.

 

[Der_Echte]

Scrub player, I like 05FX or FX-S on either wing, even FH... I am 2.5 hrs away, but whenever I have business to be in Bay Area, I will flash up the bat sign.

I can live with FX-S over T05FX... I do the same thing with either. I am not a diginics fan either, but I could cough up used for used if I roll through Bay Area. TTD member erm gave me a couple of Diginics used ones... I think 64 and 80. On my prefered OFF wood blades, these are rocketships... my weapon of choice still ends up being a rocket at the end of the day, but starts out as a slower rubber that I just can impact harder since there is easier control for me.

 

[latej]

Thanks for the review. By chance, can you compare DHS PG5 with HL5 or PG5X with HL5X?

I tried PG5 and wasn't excited from it, and according ttgearlab those blades (and FangBo) have the same composition. So it would be interesting to know the difference. Also PG5 felt less powerful than Viscaria, and you say HL5 is more powerful.

 

[Haito]

Thanks for the review. By chance, can you compare DHS PG5 with HL5 or PG5X with HL5X?

I tried PG5 and wasn't excited from it, and according ttgearlab those blades (and FangBo) have the same composition. So it would be interesting to know the difference. Also PG5 felt less powerful than Viscaria, and you say HL5 is more powerful.

I would consider speed a function of user input. In Layman's terms race car might have crappy lowend power but a lot of high rpm power, a street car usually has better low end and midrange but does not really make a lot in the top. That is why true race car does not like driving on the street and street car might not excel on the race track. If you have strike of a superman blade A might be better but if you cannot make that power consistently blade B might be faster since the threshold to make the power is lower for blade B.

 

[latej]

I would consider speed a function of user input. In Layman's terms race car might have crappy lowend power but a lot of high rpm power, a street car usually has better low end and midrange but does not really make a lot in the top. That is why true race car does not like driving on the street and street car might not excel on the race track. If you have strike of a superman blade A might be better but if you cannot make that power consistently blade B might be faster since the threshold to make the power is lower for blade B.

Understand the point. I thought about it the same way, in connection to Ma Long's stroke.

Still, it would be interesting to hear from someone who tried both, or FangBo...

 

[God-scrubplayer]

What's the difference between

h3 37: https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=NEOproOrangeRed37

and

h3 -50: https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=H350


What's the weight difference cut vs uncut and playing chara difference?

Thanks

 

[zeio]

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24335-Sponge-hardness-between-FH-and-BH-rubbers&p=328260&viewfull=1#post328260

 

[yogi_bear]

My uncut h3 37 is about 59 grams.

 

[virtuososiu]

My uncut h3 37 is about 59 grams.

Hi Yogi Bear

Have you tried provincial version before? Im using h3 37degree provincial, orange sponged. Im just wondering if I should just go for commercial 37 next time.

Many thanks in advance.

 

[thomas.pong]

scrubplayer;338956What's the difference between

h3 37: https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=NEOproOrangeRed37

and

h3 -50: https://www.prott.vip/Product-Details.aspx?productcode=H350


What's the weight difference cut vs uncut and playing chara difference?

Thanks

https://blog.tabletennis11.com/dhs-hurricane3-neo-3-50-provincial-review

H3 37 has the classic Chinese sponge just softer, H3-50 37 has a more elastic sponge and is like a hybrid rubber.

 

[yogi_bear]

virtuososiu;338991

Hi Yogi Bear

Have you tried provincial version before? Im using h3 37degree provincial, orange sponged. Im just wondering if I should just go for commercial 37 next time.

Many thanks in advance.

Not yet although I have the national and provincial versions also. The differences would be just the quality and probably the speed. I am using the commecial version and boosted with seamoon. It is actually already superb this way.

 

[Trayanee]

Is H37 lively enough unboosted or should I go for H3-50, If I dont intend to boost it?

 

[thomas.pong]

Trayanee;339002Is H37 lively enough unboosted or should I go for H3-50, If I dont intend to boost it?

H3 37 is not lively, if you don't intend to boost, use H3-50.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Weight difference anyone?