San Francisco looking for training partner.

[lightspin]

Most pro players coming from overseas to the USA know this is a death sentence for their game. They can coach and make money. Practicing seriously is out of the question. And to the surprise of many, practicing 3 hours a day is not practicing seriously for a professional player. People can make a decent living coaching. It is impossible to make a living playing in the USA, especially if you are female.

A good province level player in China can make 150k USD just playing in tournaments and doing well. No one in the USA could do that playing tournaments. If you want to survive on table tennis in the USA open a club and coach or just coach.

 

[Der_Echte]

Most pro players coming from overseas to the USA know this is a death sentence for their game. They can coach and make money. Practicing seriously is out of the question. And to the surprise of many, practicing 3 hours a day is not practicing seriously for a professional player. People can make a decent living coaching. It is impossible to make a living playing in the USA, especially if you are female.

A good province level player in China can make 150k USD just playing in tournaments and doing well. No one in the USA could do that playing tournaments. If you want to survive on table tennis in the USA open a club and coach or just coach.

THAT is indeed a REALITY.

Even more real is that MANY TT coaches cannot just coach and afford a car and an apartment by themself. Many have another job and/or live with one or more people in the same place to reduce housing costs. Some do not even have a car. Living in USA in an urban area is expensive. Nearly every city besides NYC and Boston does not have a public transportation system worth a spit and you could argue that NYC and Boston subway/bus systems are garbage. Anyone who has lived in a country and city with a good subway system, like say Seoul would concur. They throw RIOTS over there if they have to wait more than 5 minutes for a train.

Even if you hire on with a big club that houses you (like say the new HUGE 888 club by SFO) and pays you OK (lowest coach you have to pay 100 an hour, they gotta get a goodly chunk of that), even if you can get ahead some financially, when all you do is coach 1500-2500 kids hours on end each day, your reactions and instincts are not that of a 2700-2800 level player.

You simply drop a few levels when you coach full time.

lightspin also makes a great point that MANY will not realize that even if a player had access to pro players for practice partners, even a few hrs a few times a week is only enough training maintenance to get you in trouble vs a pro in competition.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Few thing to note
1) Today's Chinese provincial level is not as high as a decade ago.
2) There are "30" provinces in China, there are 20 odd players per senior team/gender. So if we just stay with mens, that is say 40 to 50 players per province, and that is 1000+ "provincial players at any given time.
not all of them are that good...
3) lets filter out and take the good ones. Some of them can't win against European players, or the win ratio is pretty low.

So with above conclusion, Kou Lei has a proven track record. He would be rated quite high up in China provincial setup.
all those Chinese he beaten in America, are all provincial players (some even national players). He won every match (or loss maybe only 1?), so that is like a 99% winning record so far, more or less.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

THAT is indeed a REALITY.

Even more real is that MANY TT coaches cannot just coach and afford a car and an apartment by themself. Many have another job and/or live with one or more people in the same place to reduce housing costs. Some do not even have a car. Living in USA in an urban area is expensive. Nearly every city besides NYC and Boston does not have a public transportation system worth a spit and you could argue that NYC and Boston subway/bus systems are garbage. Anyone who has lived in a country and city with a good subway system, like say Seoul would concur. They throw RIOTS over there if they have to wait more than 5 minutes for a train.

Even if you hire on with a big club that houses you (like say the new HUGE 888 club by SFO) and pays you OK (lowest coach you have to pay 100 an hour, they gotta get a goodly chunk of that), even if you can get ahead some financially, when all you do is coach 1500-2500 kids hours on end each day, your reactions and instincts are not that of a 2700-2800 level player.

You simply drop a few levels when you coach full time.

lightspin also makes a great point that MANY will not realize that even if a player had access to pro players for practice partners, even a few hrs a few times a week is only enough training maintenance to get you in trouble vs a pro in competition.

that is reality.
cost of living/running a business in USA is that crazy.

I had a friend who tried to open a club/centre. It didn't last too long.
said, coaching is easy part, running (profit) a club is impossible.

I think all is cool if you are single.
But having spouse and kids.... only a handful can live comfortably.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Bump, updated my post

 

[matt243385]

how much and from where did u get gold tags?

 

[KM1976]

According to butterfly chart, viscaria and all its variants like TB alc are the same

True from wood/alc composition perspective, but the behavior differs based on the handle, wings and blade weight. However, players can notice this difference only when they have played with one particular combo for a long time. If you switch quite often, then it is not that easy to point out the difference.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Images:

https://i.ibb.co/MkYjvNd/731-1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/3MgDhqS/731-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/j3dPfv9/731-3.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/93WBkFk/731-4.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/61fS4D7/731-5.jpg

Composition

FH limba -> ayous -> Carbon (yellow dhs) < ayous (core.> -> ayous -> alc (butterfly blue carbon) -> koto

Used for a session liked it but going to buy a new blade with better design so selling my current one.

weight 88g~89g depending on where you weight it and what weight you use.

Price $150 + shipping

playing characteristic:

FH (h3): can't seem to miss, very high throw and it doesn't feel hollow. Very easy to play and easier to play compare to w968, i can't seem to be able to miss.

BH: a bit slower than timoboll alc, simliar to viscaria but a tat slower with stronger initial bounce.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

bump

 

[God-scrubplayer]

bump

 

[God-scrubplayer]

4char

 

[piligrim]

Available for $150 on Ebay

 

[ttarc]

Available for $150 on Ebay

or from Butterfly https://de.butterfly.tt/lin-gaoyuan-alc.html for 179€ incl. 19% VAT or around 150€ / USD 161 without VAT

 

[DukeGaGa]

Available for $150 on Ebay

or from Butterfly https://de.butterfly.tt/lin-gaoyuan-alc.html for 179€ incl. 19% VAT or around 150€ / USD 161 without VAT

Or just buy a Viscaria/Boll ALC/FZD ALC ...

 

[God-scrubplayer]

or from Butterfly https://de.butterfly.tt/lin-gaoyuan-alc.html for 179€ incl. 19% VAT or around 150€ / USD 161 without VAT

Not the flare handle. It's out of stock it's discounted

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Available for $150 on Ebay

That's ebay china, different factory difference price point, don't even know if it's real

 

[piligrim]

That's ebay china, different factory difference price point, don't even know if it's real

Why China? Ebay.com

 

[God-scrubplayer]

Why China? Ebay.com

It's from China

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

You guys are not supposed to comment on the price. If you want it, you can PM ScrubPlayer and discuss. If you don't, then the comments are beside the point.

A seller can name his price. You can choose to buy or not.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

+ 20 bucks for a d80 that's lightly used.