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[Amayzde]

Scrolling through a bunch of post i saw people mentioning about reboosting their h3...... please for the love of god DO NOT do it. My chinese coaches in bay are who doesn't train have their h3 on for 1 year + and it still plays good (they don't train anymore so they don't bubble it) Their physilophy is the same, play till your rubber bubble, if it doesn't bubble it STAYS THE F**** ON THE PADDLE. Once the rubber leave the paddle it belongs into the trashcan.


DO NOT reboost your rubber. Once you boost your rubber and stick it on the paddle. ONLY take the rubber off if you are changing new rubber and that's it. DO NOT fking ej around this ej around that thinking reboosting is going to be better this and better that and fk up everything. I've done this whole 9 miles.

On the side note: If you felt it's too "hard" fine... go boost more because you havent found your boost formula. However, if you boosted properly and it felt great. then don't "犯贱" and take rubber off and reboost it cuz why not. If you felt the rubber is dead or whatever then just change to new rubber.

This is a vid of former CTN

he basically said the same thing as i did. You boost once, play it till you bubble or want to change rubber and that's it. The rubber STAYS on the paddle for the lifespan.

For people who wanna know why?
1. If you take rubber off, the rubber shrinks and make it impossible to align it perfectly like you once did.
2. Shrinking rubber != rubber become harder, so reboosting it will simply soften the rubber and make it even more dead
3. Your paddle have a life span too, the more you put waterbase glue on your paddle the softer it becomes. So to preserve the lifespan of your racket, glue rubber on it as little times as possible.

I appreciate your concern, but the whole reason I am now trying out H3 is because I liked Hybrid K3, but I want something that lasts longer.

So I don’t know yet how long the boosting effect lasts for me. Im assuming it will be somewhere between 6-8 weeks. If I where to throw the rubber away after this time period, I might as well play with K3 and not go through the hustle of boosting.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Top pro have these privilege, but a lot of CNT 2nd teams or non famous players BTY rubber is just off the rack. Euguene wang w968 might be w968 and also he knwos how to boost whiel most player don't. As i said, most of my chinese coach paddle is up to the T in terms of playability, only fellow clubmate paddles can be wacky especially lower rated players.

Most second team members and even provincial team members are using special blades and Hurricanes that they get through their friends on the national team or other connections.

Yes, the custom Butterfly rubbers are rare and reserved for top Butterfly pros, so most people don't get their hands on this. This is the same case for ESN rubbers/players, so I was confused about your comment "The pro's equipment is different than what you can buy for those esn junk. BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)".

Of course professional players and coaches are more likely than recreational or low-level players to know how to, and care enough to, properly optimize their equipment setup. That doesn't mean that's how they got to their level and this observation really isn't that insightful. I don't think anyone here thought that high level Bay Area coaches who came from Indian and Chinese teams don't know how to glue or boost their rubbers, while recreational players have the secret sauce figured out, so what point are you really trying to make here besides for "look at me I finally broke 2200"?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Yes but the biggest factor is equipment. Using junk really hinder my progress for years

All the kids that blitz to 2200 stick with bty and do what their coach recommends and focus on training.

What about the kids that blitz to 2200 that stuck with ESN companies and did what their coach recommends and focused on training?

 

[piligrim]

Most second team members and even provincial team members are using special blades and Hurricanes that they get through their friends on the national team or other connections.

Yes, the custom Butterfly rubbers are rare and reserved for top Butterfly pros, so most people don't get their hands on this. This is the same case for ESN rubbers/players, so I was confused about your comment "The pro's equipment is different than what you can buy for those esn junk. BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)".

Of course professional players and coaches are more likely than recreational or low-level players to know how to, and care enough to, properly optimize their equipment setup. That doesn't mean that's how they got to their level and this observation really isn't that insightful. I don't think anyone here thought that high level Bay Area coaches who came from Indian and Chinese teams don't know how to glue or boost their rubbers, while recreational players have the secret sauce figured out, so what point are you really trying to make here besides for "look at me I finally broke 2200"?

I asked coach, ex-provincial player, I used to play with, he said provincial players get equipment from regular store same as us.

 

[riemsesy]

I feel like rating and skill level needs to be posted as an option near the name tag. We have these wacky ass garage player giving advice ruining people's rubber and paddle wasting their time and money.

because? there is a top class player at our club, and he doesn't know shit about glueing rubbers. He has it done for him. He even doesn't know the name of his BTY Ovtcharov ALC blade with dignics 09c and 64...
Another example.. 75 year old veteran (used to play national team in the 70's) his ranking is nothing know but has 50 years of experience.
Ranking says something about your level of playing you arrogant piece of ....

 

[passifid]

Top pro have these privilege, but a lot of CNT 2nd teams or non famous players BTY rubber is just off the rack. Euguene wang w968 might be w968 and also he knwos how to boost whiel most player don't. As i said, most of my chinese coach paddle is up to the T in terms of playability, only fellow clubmate paddles can be wacky especially lower rated players.

I presume Felix Lebrun is under 2200 then?

 

[riemsesy]

well, I need to open up and be honest with you all.
every 10kg gain, I need to divide my rating by 2.
I think that is a fair calculation for me

I think I outrank you easily 🤣

 

[riemsesy]

I think people who continuously keep boOsting about their rating, and repeatedly bringing up derogatory comments in an attempt to get their point across, rather than actually engage in a conversation by reacting constructively to points others make, might benefit from a good hard look in the mirror.

he boosted his ranking 3 times

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I think I outrank you easily 🤣

okay, so we both under usatt1000 points now

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Most second team members and even provincial team members are using special blades and Hurricanes that they get through their friends on the national team or other connections.

Yes, the custom Butterfly rubbers are rare and reserved for top Butterfly pros, so most people don't get their hands on this. This is the same case for ESN rubbers/players, so I was confused about your comment "The pro's equipment is different than what you can buy for those esn junk. BTY actually sells exactly what the pros uses (at least for the rubbers)".

Of course professional players and coaches are more likely than recreational or low-level players to know how to, and care enough to, properly optimize their equipment setup. That doesn't mean that's how they got to their level and this observation really isn't that insightful. I don't think anyone here thought that high level Bay Area coaches who came from Indian and Chinese teams don't know how to glue or boost their rubbers, while recreational players have the secret sauce figured out, so what point are you really trying to make here besides for "look at me I finally broke 2200"?

my conclusion to your question from reading the 2 threads: that a hobby player is teaching pros how to do tt for a living.

 

[pgpg]

The funniest thing about this thread is this obsession with the number 2000 amongst players from USA. Noticed it first when I joined mytt 15 years ago and has not changed a bit since then.

...

It's a nice round number and it's a reasonably challenging goal, as most adult amateur players would consider, I suspect (1000 USATT is a REALLY low aim for a club player). I'm starting to suspect I won't break 2000...

 

[NextLevel]

It's a nice round number and it's a reasonably challenging goal, as most adult amateur players would consider, I suspect (1000 USATT is a REALLY low aim for a club player). I'm starting to suspect I won't break 2000...

Age is tough. Who coaches you now?

 

[Der_Echte]

Peter, with so many years of the ABS ball, it has become much easier to attack spins and handle spins. Also many many many many, did I say MANY more kids are professionally trained in big time clubs and kept in a closed loop competing only against each other at ratings of 100 to 300... but they are 1300 to 1800 rated.

Many pockets of severely under classified players... I have become one.

1700 here on west coast Bay Area or LA is like the new 2100. I see these near 1700 rated players playing matches and have tactical and technical skills a mid 2000s player had only 5 years ago.

 

[pgpg]

Peter, with so many years of the ABS ball, it has become much easier to attack spins and handle spins. Also many many many many, did I say MANY more kids are professionally trained in big time clubs and kept in a closed loop competing only against each other at ratings of 100 to 300... but they are 1300 to 1800 rated.

Many pockets of severely under classified players... I have become one.

1700 here on west coast Bay Area or LA is like the new 2100. I see these near 1700 rated players playing matches and have tactical and technical skills a mid 2000s player had only 5 years ago.

Yes, rating calibration and meaning (at least in US) is probably worth a separate thread (don't want to derail this one ). and to earlier point by @NextLevel - yeah, age kind of matters, even when we don't want to admit it or don't notice subtle changes in our physical condition. But that's fine, my comment about not reaching 2000 was mostly in jest, I still enjoy TT (both at club and tournament level) and don't particularly care about rating these days. Don't have regular coach either - might re-consider and take few lessons once I'm done with travel: it kind of gets in the way.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

because? there is a top class player at our club, and he doesn't know shit about glueing rubbers. He has it done for him. He even doesn't know the name of his BTY Ovtcharov ALC blade with dignics 09c and 64...
Another example.. 75 year old veteran (used to play national team in the 70's) his ranking is nothing know but has 50 years of experience.
Ranking says something about your level of playing you arrogant piece of ....

they aren't h3 users and none of the higher rated players disagreed with me yet. Only lower rated EJ (i was one) disagree and spread misinformation.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

I asked coach, ex-provincial player, I used to play with, he said provincial players get equipment from regular store same as us.

I'm sure some do...all the higher level ones I know have plenty of access to the more select or restricted products.

 

[h3llary]

All that being said, I actually agree with the central point. Equipment does matter. Even moreso at higher levels. People on forums oftentimes downplay that. But it's weird to make a thread that was clearly a humblebrag and disguise it as an equipment discussion.

Equipment does matter only for certain levle/people. I think what matters even more is dedicated training time. I know few professionals in Russia who have zero clue about equipment, they simply play with what their clubs gave them. Some of them have been playing with the same equipment for decades, they just replace the rubbers with new every month or so. But they dedicate all their time to training instead of finding the "perfect blade" or "perfect" rubber that will do the job for them. I went the wrong way of becoming an EJ instead of dedicating my time and effort to trainings and honing my skills. In fact, very few professionals think about the rubbers or blades all that much. They focus on different things

 

[Der_Echte]

Yes, rating calibration and meaning (at least in US) is probably worth a separate thread (don't want to derail this one ). and to earlier point by @NextLevel - yeah, age kind of matters, even when we don't want to admit it or don't notice subtle changes in our physical condition. But that's fine, my comment about not reaching 2000 was mostly in jest, I still enjoy TT (both at club and tournament level) and don't particularly care about rating these days. Don't have regular coach either - might re-consider and take few lessons once I'm done with travel: it kind of gets in the way.

If you are able to get enough training time in... and get enough focused play time with the right level of players (and there are enough of them in your metro area) then I believe you could make a 2000 rating and even a consistent 2000 training level.

 

[zeio]

OP: The difference between 2000 and 2200
Coach:

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/money-to-buy-skill_topic111891.html

A while back I was talking to my coach. He jokingly said. "Skill is obtained by throwing money at it." So let s see how accurate is that. How much money did you spend on TT(balls,tables,equip,coaching,etc...) and what is the highest rating you ve achieved(please usatt rated or equiv, no self proclaim fantasy rating e.g I am usatt 1600 but I play at 1800 level bs).

For me it s around 20k usd my rating is 1969usatt.
The breakdown.

at age 10~14 my parents spends a ton i estimate at least 12k usd.
fast forward to age 23 I switched to pen hold and pay around 7k in coaching for 4 yeras. and roughly 3k in equipment, shoes and stuff.
now i switch back to shakehand but im paying at least 100/month for SPiN s membership. Sometimes i get coaching but I try not to spend anything over 200/month.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

the ancient saying: all roads lead to Rome. In the same way, all table tennis threads eventually leads to discussion of equipment.